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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 28, 2014 21:26:29 GMT -5
Well Helen. Let's see here. She doesn't make valid points with her arguments which makes trying to debate anything with her as complete nonsense. It would be nice to discuss the OCCK in an intelligent manner but I don't see it ever happening. She has someone from Owosso, MI post on toxics for her as a Les sidekick. I'm completely baffled who she could be. Can you get your best detectives on this? Uni faun Note: I don't know but it sounds like the Mark changing T-W-A-T- from Topix-lol
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 1, 2014 11:17:34 GMT -5
Helen, I think I know what happen,the attacks on you started,when you openly supported Jessica R. Cooper, Oakland County Prosecutor,for her decisions on these cases and then you have proven time and again why there was no conspiracy. To me anyone who uses their brain and followed these cases and applied just a little reasoning,could on their own see why she is not responsible for these cases not being solved,she wasn't even on these cases until 2009 and she has a job to do and from what I see,she does that job very well. JJ
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 1, 2014 11:38:22 GMT -5
Helen I just don't get it. You have shown in your videos very clearly that John's Big Boy maps came from Barry King's FOIA request. How on earth does this person claim you stole the credit for those. As far as you getting all the attention, let's remember that they chose to have a document of you as the first thing they show the public over their FOIA request on the Scott Lewis news report. They have all these mounds of startling earth shattering Busch evidence (Quite a stack of binders!) suddenly but they picked a document (A woman from Roger City) instead for their first news coverage. As far the miles of speculation over this case that someone decides to pull out of their a$$. Who cares. It's completely meaningless. We all can speculate all we want but where does it lead? Ret. Lt.Xxxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 1, 2014 13:08:06 GMT -5
Helen I just don't get it. You have shown in your videos very clearly that John's Big Boy maps came from Barry King's FOIA request. How on earth does this person claim you stole the credit for those. As far as you getting all the attention, let's remember that they chose to have a document of you as the first thing they show the public over their FOIA request on the Scott Lewis news report. They have all these mounds of startling earth shattering Busch evidence (Quite a stack of binders!) suddenly but they picked a document (A woman from Roger City) instead for their first news coverage. As far the miles of speculation over this case that someone decides to pull out of their a$$. Who cares. It's completely meaningless. We all can speculate all we want but where does it lead? Ret. Lt.Xxxxx Always remember that some people will gossip and talk about you because when they talk about themselves... no one cares. Mel
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 1, 2014 14:29:14 GMT -5
Helen, I sent you and Email and told you that I didn't have the money to get your Stats on line so would you please send them to me for free? You answered that you wouldn't have February until 7pm last night. Did you forget? Norm....No I didn't forget I just didn't get to it,and I hate that you asked on our worst month ever-only 28 days and we were off line 3 times during those days. But just give me a second and I will go get the total and post it here.Note: Here you go Norm--February,2014-Total 82,537
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 2, 2014 3:24:15 GMT -5
Helen, I couldn't find much that you have posted about Sloan -Is there and update since you posted this ** So many of you are on the same page that I am about Sloan, although the prosecutor and other Oakland County LE are saying he isn't talking,then why would they be hauling his A$$ all over Michigan? They wouldn't be,what else can they do for a guy who is serving two life sentences,but protect his comments and get him out in the fresh air a few times? Keeping him alive by not admitting that he is a snatch,is really a good idea,how ever it is not paying off for the powers who be,because there getting nothing of value from the guy,which is most likely because he doesn't know anything. It sure is using a lot of Police resources up to follow this wild Goose chase. But who really is keeping track? Apparently No One~ Tess Note:I will be posting about the DNA,other than that,I really do not keep track of Sloan,this is just another red Herring.Note-This was I think the last word from Jessica on Sloan- **Prosecutor Jessica Cooper announced a DNA link between hairs found on two of the victims and hairs found in the Bonneville belonging to convicted sexual predator Arch Sloan. While the hairs are not Sloan's, investigators believe they could belong to an associate of his - who could be the killer. And that killer could have had access to the 1969 Chevy.
The car had a camper on the back which investigators are particularly interested in because most of the murders took place in the cold weather. They say Sloan probably wasn't driving the ragtop Bonneville in the wintertime.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 2, 2014 4:02:11 GMT -5
Kim, I think this is the post you asked about,If not let me know and when I get time I will look around more. March 20, 1977
The following letter to the public–and to the kidnapper of her 11-year-old son–was given to a Detroit News reporter Saturday by Mrs. Marian [sic] King of Birmingham. Her son, Timothy, has been missing since Wednesday night.
I am expecting at any moment for the side door to bang open and hear Tim say ‘Have we ate yet? I mean, have we had dinner yet?
When that happens, I will run for his favorite Kentucky Fried Chicken and mix his glass of Ovaltine.
Then, when he has had the usual eight Oreos and some plain milk to dunk them, Tim and I will go on our delayed shopping trip. We had planned to buy a much-wanted light blue warmup suit with the money he has saved from his newspaper route.
Wherever Tim is, he is distressed about worrying me. He has always left notes or called to tell me where he is. He is impatient to return to rehearsing for his role as ‘Mike TV’ in the upcoming production of ‘Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory’ at Adams School.
He is also eager to play on his basketball team, try out for Little League and his new career as a soccer player.
There are no words to express how much we all miss Tim. We can hardly wait to see him, hug him and hear his latest collection of jokes.
It is my hope that Tim is not frightened or hungry and that his cold is not any worse.
I appeal to all of you from the bottom of my heart–help bring him home to us very soon. Do whatever you can to help find him, and call the Birmingham police with any possible information which might be useful.
We are overwhelmed at the outpouring of love and support from neighbors, friends and concerned persons.
The magnificent efforts of the Birmingham police and their associates from all of Michigan are beyond any expectations.
We are eagerly anticipating Tim’s safe arrival. Someone, please, give him all our love until we can do that ourselves.
Tim’s autopsy three days later would reveal that he had eaten chicken shortly before his death. He was buried on March 26 in a light blue warmup suit.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 2, 2014 10:43:43 GMT -5
This case just doesn't quit giving!!! Maybe there is new Information-I never get all of my emails read,in a timely matter,as there is just to many of them-so lately I just scan the Titles -That is why if you have something to say about these cases-that is new Info-YOU MUST SAY THAT IN THE TITLE-In order for me to read it right away-I can not share this Info with you at this time,but if true--it is the missing puzzle pieces-I'm excited!!! I didn't think I could feel anything but numb over these cases any more-but this new Info has my juices flowing,of course I can not do much of the investigation on this,as my Health is rapidly failing,but I will get this into the hands of someone who will and I will keep you posted as best that I can...You know you have to start praying now,for a resolve to these cases,we have done this before and Prayer works!!!!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 2, 2014 12:58:16 GMT -5
For those of you who keep up with my granddaughter Joeys Hockey play she has been on fire this week-end!!!-She had two shut outs-was MVP Twice and as we speak her and her team are headed for the championship round- So I would like to say- Watch out Canadian Storm the Petoskey Piranha just beat Grand Rapids..... and are coming for you in the championship round!!!!!!!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 2, 2014 13:30:23 GMT -5
Helen,I know you only have one grandchild,so this must be "Little Helen" Was wondering if you could remember back 57 years when you came to Alpena to skate at the Ice Ring here? You taught me how to do the figure 8 and some other tricky moves,I followed you a round for hours and you never even chased me away,and here you were competing in a competition,you just were on shakable! I wanted to grow up and be just like you! However my skating never improved much,so I never was able to be in a competition. But I never forgot you. Betty Note: Soon as I read your name,I remembered it all! Thanks for bringing back some great memory's.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 3, 2014 19:13:07 GMT -5
Helen, They said the dogs were home at Busch' death scene and barking--do you see any doggy bowls out with food in? Nope just a couple blankets on the floor to make it appear that they were there--I haven't heard a thing-but will let you know as soon as I do-Sgt.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 3, 2014 20:11:45 GMT -5
Hi Helen,those reports on Busch say a lot of things,that are not true, Isn’t it odd that the maid could not get into the Busch house because the doors were locked, yet LE has a picture of the back door (to the garage?) being open? Geo
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 3, 2014 20:24:46 GMT -5
Helen,what sticks in my mind,is the Booze bottle siting in the Busch kitchen-no glasses,no mess any where,most of the Booze gone,and they state the amount of booze in Chris at and astronomical amount,with that much in him-he couldn't of made it back upstairs,and if he drank it upstairs,how did the bottle get down on the kitchen Cabinet just sitting there in a neat manner? Did you know,there were no finger prints on the bottle?? If Chris was chugging this Booze,his prints would be there. Ken
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 3, 2014 20:39:54 GMT -5
Well tell me Helen,where are the photos we are suppose to look at to form an opinion,don't you think you should give us a clue? Jack Note: I have them on the site some where.I'm not looking for them tonight,I'm just to busy,but you could go over to Cathy's site and view them,or you could look a round on this site on your own,must I do everything for you!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 3, 2014 22:16:26 GMT -5
Jacki , I don't mean to be a smart a$$,But go to the link you clicked on for this feedback thread -and you will find this link cloakdagner.proboards.com/thread/1346/busch-5-6 lol This group of Photos will answer all three of the posts.
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