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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 25, 2014 22:35:58 GMT -5
Helen,I can not find Cathy's site,could you give me the link? Tess NOTE: No problem,here you go catherinebroad.wordpress.com I guess that didn't high lite-will try again catherinebroad.wordpress.com/
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 25, 2014 23:21:29 GMT -5
Helen, I read what that Mike said on a post at Cathy's. I guess that is what people do when they lack knowledge. His saying you Kidnapped these cases,well I didn't see any posts by him on the Internet back in the 90s,nor where there any by the Kings or by anyone else. There wouldn't be anyone talking about these cases if you had not resurrected them and now all of a sudden they are all experts who won't admit they have been on the wrong track since they showed up on the scene. Then that Mike has enough guts to say John has 000000000000000000 chance of being the Occk,what that tells me,is he is one Big AH,who isn't paying attention. I sure would like to see any proof that he has,but like the rest of the Busch Groupies,they have zero proof of anything and they have been told by the OC Prosecutor ,Busch never was involved in these murders,now they want us to believe the prosecutor and everyone else who doesn't agree with them is involved in a cover up,I wonder if they took a min. and repeated this over and over they could realize how silly this sounds.No matter how many times they repeat that they think Busch is the Occk,it will not make it true! And no matter how much they try to say you are not special and no matter how many times they try to over look the 20+ years you have put into these cases saying you seek glory they are just plain full of S-it! I worked with you for years on these cases and I know your dedication to all of these case. Cathy should be absolutely ashamed of her self for the way she has treated you! You know what this tells me? If you don't learn it at home,you never learn it! I have a lot more to say too,however I know you will not post it. Thanks for letting me vent! Xxxx Xxxxxxxxx Note: This was signed but I am withholding the name so the Vultures won't stalk her on the Internet.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 25, 2014 23:34:16 GMT -5
Dear Readers,I posted the above post because it was mild compared to the other 58 I received, which I will not be posting,I don't like doing that to you,but I am not going to waste my time getting into a P-i-ss-ing contest with Cathy or her site readers. The group over there is starting to sound a lot like Les,Kdogg and the Old Yahoo group,haven't you all had enough of that? I know you all are trying to support me and I really do appreciate it,but I wish you would think about this...there is nothing that their words can do to me because you can not change fact...and they seem to be a little short on facts-So lets get back to the cases and do what we do best-Research!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 26, 2014 6:03:41 GMT -5
Helen if that rope on the floor that was left at Busch murder was really signs of blood from the OCCK victims as some claim, there would had been all kinds of proof that would support it! There would not only be obvious scars and injuries on the OCCK victims indicating rope was used which there were not. But there would have been much more proof such as some type rope fragments left on the victims as well. Nothing on the reports indicate anything about rope that I recall. Where in the hell is the common sense with these people? Ron Note: Maybe they were told that by Cory and you know what ever he says must be true-NOT!
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Post by Maura Deschitt on Feb 26, 2014 17:10:59 GMT -5
Maura Deschitt Post has been deleted -I just found out who posted this,More deception.....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 27, 2014 2:00:52 GMT -5
Well I haven't read all your email posts but I have gone through at least 100 of them,and I really don't see any point in posting them as it will not change anything,this group of people are just deceptive and lack any real knowledge of events and they have no interest in these cases,they are just playing the game
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 27, 2014 14:28:09 GMT -5
Occk Feedback-*Rules For Occk Feedback-Because of all the deception Involved In the Oakland County Child Murders on screen-names- and on posted Info, In order to post on this thread,you will need to email me a copy of your legal ID and a phone number before you post,No exceptions will be made. In other rules -Yes we do delete requested Information for people who's name appears on the site if I feel your request is justified,however If you have posted 300 untrue Items about me on the Internet just to be spiteful,your request will not be honored,until you have all of those Items removed about me-(No Exceptions will be made)Thanks,Helen
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 27, 2014 19:40:45 GMT -5
Helen, I think I know when all this back biting began,it was after Deb, Spidey and Greg's Videos,so much Jealousy from the Topix group over them. Betty Note: Well, just say it increased a lot,because it has always been a behind your back deal from 2004 on,I don't get that at all,seems like every nut in Michigan came out to try and stop anything Occk related.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 27, 2014 19:54:34 GMT -5
Helen,who would think that adult people would act like they do on the Internet?Ray Note: I asked a Dr. friend about that once and he said,it is because they can not act out with real people in their daily life's,and it is most likely,people who are mean spirited and they need that fix,and they can easily obtain that by just posting under a screen name and that gives them a sense of power that,allows them to say any thing they want to with out being responsible for there actions,these are people who have low self esteem to begin with,and in the real world they have already alienated anyone who was close to them,then they get so addicted to the high of beating down people who seem to have it all together,they get off on this so the Inter net becomes there private space,and they can not stop,because it is a mental Illness. I can't remember what else he said,something about the deceit fullness,I'm sure you could find this all on the Internet.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 27, 2014 20:02:12 GMT -5
Helen, When I clicked on to your site last night and tonight,there were hundreds of people on,is your equipment working? Dale Note: Lol,I know ,when I see all the readers viewing,I have to wonder my self-lol However a private Company handles this for the advertisers,and it has to be accurate,they even subtract my views from the totals.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 27, 2014 20:23:48 GMT -5
Helen, When will you be putting up more videos? Who will be doing them? Cliff Note: Good question. we have some ready to go,but we are holding off for a good reason,Rick will be in one telling about living with John at Scott's in Alpena and he also will tell about Johns reaction when I would be at Scotts. Then there is the conversation that he had when Don Studt ran out to the car in the parking lot at the Birmingham PD,after I had my (pis- s-ie fit), to ask Rick,If he was present when John ever mention being the Killer. Then we have a couple of retired LE,talking about their opinion of John being the Killer,and I don't want to spoil this for you,so I best not say any more about the LE videos. I also have made a video,that tells why there has been no arrest in these cases. Then we have several people who are connected to these cases,for many different reasons,who we haven't started their videos yet because of their work ,which seems to conflict with our time line...but it will all fall in place.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 27, 2014 20:30:09 GMT -5
Helen, when I was helping work on these cases,we had witnesses who saw two people at Kris drop off and two people at Tim's,is that going any where? James Note: I have no Idea,because I turned that info over to the police...and they don't get back to the tipster and I never Inquire about any of the Info that we give them-because they wouldn't tell me anyway.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 27, 2014 20:35:22 GMT -5
Helen,Could you use some help? Fred Note: I sure could but I will need to turn you down,please don't take it personally,but we have been operating for some time on a "need to know",so it wouldn't be very exciting for you,you would end up doing something that was unrelated to these cases...so that we could keep are secrets.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 27, 2014 23:53:01 GMT -5
It will soon be the week-end and most of us will be staying in because of the temp's being so low-you may want to look up this case and read it-###Helen, I thought this very interesting and it also shows the pain a parent goes through when there child is murdered. "Tim Miller, whose sixteen-year-old daughter, Laura, was found dead in the killing fields, is so convinced of Abel’s guilt that he has left threatening messages on his answering machine, demanding that he confess. “There are many days when I think about driving over there, putting a gun to his head, and pulling the trigger,” Miller says. “When I’m near him, I feel like I’m in the presence of evil.” Yet there are problems with the allegations against Abel: Not a shred of physical evidence has ever been found linking him to the four women found dumped in the oil field, no evidence has been uncovered by any police department that can connect him to the murders they have been investigating, and no witness can place him with any of the teenagers or women before they were found dead. What’s more, he has never been arrested for any crime, nor is there any known record of a criminal complaint filed against him. “My life has been destroyed, my reputation ruined,” Abel told me when I first met him earlier this year. “I didn’t kill any of those girls. I wouldn’t know how to kill.” **Sally- Note-I couldn't find the Interview were Tim Miller-Tells how sorry he is for having thought this guy killed his daughter-but he now knows and is certain that he missed judge him and that he never had anything to do with any murders-I'm sure you can find his tapes on line-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Feb 28, 2014 3:53:34 GMT -5
It cracks me up that someone posted that they thought Chris Busch looks like the OCCK sketch. I hope they were just joking about this! Jack
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