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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 25, 2014 18:05:18 GMT -5
Helen, while all of this is going on, your current website has a new appearance! Must be the new software you were talking about?-Note: I hope this isn't going to be a nite mare!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 25, 2014 18:26:15 GMT -5
My only hope is that I live long enough to be able to work this new board!!!!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 26, 2014 0:19:00 GMT -5
National Coverage,It's not likely,unless the Occk would be arrested-I say this because Chris Hansen of NBC Dateline is another Brother Rice HS graduate (Class of 1979?). Who Has NO Interest In The Occk Cases,and he is a friend of one of the King boys,you would think that would want him to do a Documentary,but when he was asked,he skirted a round the issue and then just said NO...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 26, 2014 0:41:09 GMT -5
Scott, All serial killings are not about sex -because each person may have a different reason for doing something. It could be because it's their way of getting back at the world... or maybe they feel they have the "right" to do it... whatever the case, the human mind is such a hard thing to understand sometimes. But you would think that a bunch of Detectives sitting around for years...talking about these cases...would have figured that out....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 26, 2014 1:22:43 GMT -5
Les, saying Monday he is coming up with new Information how funny is that ? This is what he offered in Dec 8th, 2004 - 4:32 PM Re: Holly asked.....................
OK, from what all I've read here, you have these things that relate to THE OCCK KILLER, Susans brother.
1. a photo? 2. family history of abuse? 3. a cleaning soap?
Which are all things that can be related to this case. What else of evidence do you have, just so I can get this straight in my own head. Holly *Note: Since 2004 all of the above has been Debunked--So he just made up more Info all through the years and now that has all been Debunked--So his new Info for Monday must be more Delusional Ravings Of An Oxygen Starved Mind....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 26, 2014 2:53:02 GMT -5
Helen, "Isn't it a possibility that if John wanted to tell you about his involvement he would give an edited version--one that was "more acceptable"? In other words--"I was nice to the kids, I liked the kids, I never had sex with the kids, I committed rape with an object post-mortem to send a message, not because I enjoyed it." Would he have ever admitted to you that he was bisexual, homosexual or a pedophile? Would he have discussed the involvement of others if they were homosexuals or pedophiles? His younger brother certainly got out of town quickly and somewhat strangely after all of this happened--could he have been involved with any of these types? Did John ever mention being close to this brother, close enough to talk about this sort of thing?" Xxx X *NOTE: No I don't think John would have talked to me about the things you mention,unless I asked him directly and I never asked him,because he didn't give me any indication,that he was a pervert.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 27, 2014 0:01:53 GMT -5
Tell me Helen,have you told the Cops what you found out a week ago?You need to do that as it is the right thing to do.Tim Note: No, I haven't.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 27, 2014 0:03:42 GMT -5
Helen,My guess is that John would not have wanted you to know if he was associated with an obvious molester like this guy, but who knows? David
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 27, 2014 0:12:52 GMT -5
Helen, Who is Kdogg,I'm just new to your forum,when you say he had Disciples,is he some kind of Cult guy? Paul * Note; This will give you and Idea-and he kept this up everyday for years and years----Re(1): Helen's last warning By Kdogg Posted on March 28, 2011 at 02:33:34 AM by Helen Dagner
From: Kevin Rundel To: occk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [occk] Helen's last warning
Well I guess she hasn't finished feeding her fat ass yet to reply or some sence came to head. Either way the person sending these emails to Helen has not removed themselves yet. I will give you a few more hours to think it over, after that your fate will be the same as Helen. Remember, when the blood soaked slab of cement slaps you on the back and you try to open your eyes to let in the light and relize your eyes are open, you may find your wondering if you could have done things different, the answer is yes. You are at that point now where you need to make a choice.
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Subject: [occk] Helen's last warning
It seems Helen has nothing better to do than cause problems. What a very sick slobb. She complains she is being attack or being bullied but she is the only one attacking. Now, I offered her a truses a few weeks ago on her board. She now says that I offered her a truses because I ran out of ideas. I offered her a truses because if things continue, I will take it to the next step. Helen, you want to continue to run your fat fing mouth? Try chewing with your mouth closed you COW!
Here's the next step, you beast of a pregnant dog.
I'm gonna call Mark Xxxxxx. You know him. He's the person who owns the only site left that will run your slanderous bullnuts. I'm not gonna just call him at work, I'm gonna call him at home. I think I discuss with him about removing you from his site before I started contacting all is customers, again and again. I'll email them at work, I'll email them at home. I'll call them at work, I'll call them at home. Then I'll start contacting his neighbors both at home and at work. I will not stop contacking him until he either pulls your f**ked up nuts from the net and bans you or he is bankrupt. Lets see who else supports you? I would be willing to guess there are enough people pissed off at you to help with this task.
This is just the tip of the ice berg pregnant dog. Before I get to you, everyone around you will be aware.
NOTE-WHAT KDOGG CALLED HARRASING HIM-WAS MY ASKING HIM TO SHOW SOME PROOF OF THE THINGS HE SAID AND OR CORRECT THEM...OR JUST COME OUT AND ADMIT HE LIED-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 28, 2014 0:14:38 GMT -5
According to the records? What You Don't Understand
Look...if you only look at one persons file and have No other files to compare it to...and if you do not have any face to face contact with any of the people who knew him...of course..your going to think they committed these crimes...{That is where the saying comes from-of having a one track mind....not to mention the fact...that some people are quick to accuse a dead man...because they do not have to provide any proof..and they get lost in their own assumptions..
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 28, 2014 0:47:29 GMT -5
Fox Island NOT CONNECTED TO OCCK VICTIMS! I have been reading some other forums, there is never any information of value or logical train of thought or investigative reasoning.Right now they are back to the Fox Island dead end and getting no where fast. When you posted the Fox Island news you even interview some of the victims and they clearly stated they had never seen or heard anyone in that group ever mention nor were there any photos of the Occk victims. You also ran all the old news articles so I know there was no connection and just how ignorant do those poster think people are.You told us how much investigating the police did all through the years on the Fox Island group,and now they are trying to act like this is all new information,when in fact the Occk murders were not committed by any pedophile,they have missed the entire motive.I think if there had been any connection to the Fox gang and the Occk victims,surely Don Studt, Det.Anger, The MSP and above all Tobias would have caught the connection,don't you?This is the same old retread BS being put out by that old Yahoo gang.The only reason they even post anything is to bad mouth you and impress each other.They are not interested in the Occk cases all they want to do is mudslinging.I wonder if they ever even think about the damage that their nonsense has done to these cases.I guess they do not realize that their performance really goes on notice,their audience has long since lost interest and departed. Beth
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 28, 2014 20:34:41 GMT -5
1/28/2014-Visitors Traffic Estimations High Traffic Rank 1,879th most visited website in the World * We couldn't do this with out all you dedicated readers-We Thank you so very -very much for hanging in there with us!!!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 28, 2014 21:44:18 GMT -5
Hi guys! Just wondering, did you two ever do one of those fancy things Xxxx does, like John’s picture and the suspect sketch, with Mark’s real picture and the infamous Stebbins sketch?
I would, but I have to be honest. I pretty much know how to turn my computer on and compose an email. I guess I’m pretty good at entering the right search terms into google too, but all talent goes out the window when it comes to anything graphics related. Hell, I can’t even use Microsoft Paint, lol.Ken Note: I'm sure we have one or many,but I have no Idea Where-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 28, 2014 21:47:58 GMT -5
Yep – I don’t believe anyone would have enough power to cover up the OCCK case – too many people were involved. Ron
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jan 28, 2014 22:00:42 GMT -5
Helen, LE really missed an opportunity the last time they had John take one (didn’t ask the correct questions, with the right tone, etc.).
Certainly, their unwillingness to undergo the test indicates the probability they are hiding something and LE should see right thru that (at least you’d think they would).
So, what is the latest on the case? Will we hear any info. soon? Thanks. Xxxx
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