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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 14, 2013 19:57:52 GMT -5
My policy on removing items posted on the site-*remains-If it is not true-let me know-and I will remove it-I have that posted many times on many threads--usually I'm making reference to this because of John and his Sib's However now that we are into the Busch,Fox Island,Shaffer,Richards ect. I need to repeat that- It will not go away with out you bringing it to our attention-then we will re check the facts-and if we are in error-we will remove it--
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 14, 2013 20:04:50 GMT -5
Josiah Tazelaar returned my phone calls today-38 min. after he returned from his vacation,However it was to late as I tried to reach him for a week,and I thought he was ignoring me,so I went with his story-I explained to him our policy-yet he did not confirm or deny our information-and he has not called me back-so it will stand---I did email him copy's of every thing I posted on him and his church....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 15, 2013 0:28:14 GMT -5
I interviewed a lot of people about William Shaffer from the paper boy to his lawn care boy---I have to re read those notes before I post them,however this stuck out to me--Shaffer had a large size electric train that was always set up in his basement and he shopped at The Model Hobby Shop on 9mile--as did John,who built models of homes to scale...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 15, 2013 1:35:08 GMT -5
My Comment To another Bias article in the Detroit Free Press- ***Rochelle Riley,every time I read one of your stories,I just shake my head,you asked what do you have to do so George Zimmerman and others get it? Well you could quit blaming white people and maybe work at changing some of these stats-"Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against other blacks." Forty-five percent of the victims of violent crime by blacks are white folks, 43 percent are black, 10 percent are Hispanic.
Blacks are seven times as likely as people of other races to commit murder, eight times more likely to commit robbery and three times more likely to use a gun in a crime.
"Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit violent crime against a white person than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery." (If decent black folks have trouble hailing a cab, and they do, these numbers may help explain it.)
Black-on-white rape is 115 times more common than the reverse.You would think a good reporter would include these statistic in her articles. Helen Dagner Reply · Like · Follow Post · 8 minutes ago
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 15, 2013 10:31:16 GMT -5
Hi Helen,
Did anyone ever ask Mark Stebbins brother, Mike, whether or not he knew John Hastings…or any of the other Hastings family members? How about any of the other pedophiles (Busch, Sloan, Gunnels, Harold Clayton Anderson, Shaffer, etc.)? I wonder if pictures of these guys back in the day would help jog his memory? He doesn’t seem like the type of person who spends a lot of time on the internet so he may not have seen your website or newspaper articles of these stories, etc..Matt Note: I asked Mike and he does not recall any of them by name,nor from his working at the Model shop,he has tried to view them from his phone internet-but it keeps timing out---In order for this to be done properly-It is up to the police to make up a Gallery of photos with out names and show this to the family members-however over the 37 years,the cops have not found the time to have Interviews with the family--When I meet with the group of retired cops at the end of Aug. I hope that they will do this or may have some other Ideas,where they will get the family input-as you know -none of the families were ever asked who they thought could have been involved in these serial killings-and they do have information that they feel is important-so we will see-I have thought about sending out a full packet of photo -with out names to each family member and then include the contact numbers of the police dept. that they should contact if they recognize any of the photos-But would that be proper? It may just be the only way this will get done,as right now it appears that they are just watching the latest DNA hairs,hoping one of them will hatch a suspect...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 16, 2013 4:08:42 GMT -5
If I asked you during a conversation -Are you the Oakland County Child Killer? What would your re action be? Would you confirm or deny it? Would you get angry with me for asking such a bold question? Would you accuse me of being crazy?Would you demand to know why I asked that question? You would say some thing- I would think or you would hang up the phone,telling me Do Not ever call here again!!!---So why did JOSIAH M. TAZELAAR (79) -talk to me for almost 30 min.after I explained to him why I had called and left so many messages,which led to his calling me back ?? I have thought about this for days,It just such an inappropriate response. So tell me what you think.Should the Investigators be talking to him? Was he ever on their Radar?
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 16, 2013 9:03:35 GMT -5
My god,this is like a nite mare- they tell you --You can close your only LinkedIn account on the Privacy & Settings page,--Right??-Just now I received a dozen Mailer Demon's back from LinkedIn of Invitations I was suppose to have sent out----I did not send them out to anyone-I do not even use that site ...I am very angry...and want to apologize to anyone else who is receiving these emails...I will try to get them to stop-however it is going to be a tough job-as I don't even know how they got started
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 16, 2013 22:53:47 GMT -5
I would like to make a suggestion to our readers-save yourself a lot of grief-stay away from" LinkedIn" It took me a lot of hours to undo the damage they did-If you even go there to click on someones site-you have put your self at risk-as they take over your browser and no matter where you go on the Internet it is copying you and all of your contacts,so they can feed back spam and so they can sell your personal info to Google and other search engines like yahoo, ect. and then those search engines do the same ...so it will never stop-unless you stop it!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 17, 2013 5:08:56 GMT -5
Helen,No crap! Where does it say its Burgess representing him? Unbelievable!!! You know their family live/lived in Grosse Pointe, where Shelden grew up. I wonder whether Jane and/or her husband had roots in Grosse Pointe as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if all the Burgess attorneys were at one time or another were representing many suspects and defendants involved in that ring. It's the perfect way of them keeping tabs and making sure they don't spill any beans. Jack
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 17, 2013 5:54:57 GMT -5
Hi Helen, Hope you're doing well. I was away for the holiday, and I'm just catching up. Don't know if you've found any answers yet to these. Gerald Richards, I found his middle name was Russell. Do you have an exact birth date or at least year on him? I've seen two possible matches, one born August 26, 1952, living in Algonac and St. Clair some years back. (This is probably him). However I also found one, just Gerald Richards, no middle initial, with a birth date of July 20, 1955, who just died this year, March 26, 2013, in Michigan. Hope that's not him. I'm having trouble finding a phone # for the living one. If you have any clues as to a middle name or birth date, let me know, and I'll keep looking. William R. Shaffer, born August 24, 1941, living in Birmingham as late as 1993, no death certificate found (yet), can't find a phone number. A big problem with guys this age, is frequently they are living with their adult children by now, and if the kids have a landline, they are under some other name. I also found a William Shaffer, born Nov 26, 1942, died Dec 20 2008 in Sterling Heights, MI. If you can match any info to that, let me know. Sorry no phone number at this point. Lt.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 17, 2013 6:01:52 GMT -5
Note: I do not think Gerald Richards is Dead-as he received a vehicle Infraction in May 2013 for a charge of $1,000.Bucks,and then there is the fact that he was sent a bill by the State of Michigan-30 days ago,for over $4,000 bucks---you would think they (the State) would know if this guy is a live or Dead----Guess I will have to use up another favor to get to the bottom of this...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 18, 2013 4:58:33 GMT -5
THIS IS A SERIOUS WARNING FOR OUR READERS--LinkedIn is a high level big money scam, to control and manipulate information on people for nefarious and unprofessional agendas.
Anyone getting sucked into the LinkedIn scam will get burned. And if your dumb enough to get a paid LinkedIn account, linkedin will not provide the services they say they will provide, and in effect are committing felony theft of services and false advertising to deceive and defraud the public.
The Department of Commerce and FBI have received formal complaints in this regards, and spy and theft of service scams like this LinkedIn need to be shut down, and the public protected from these parasite blood suckers!-*I haven't the time right now to tell you of the Horror story's I have un covered about LinkedIn -But I will--In the mean time stay away from them!! ....and do not click on to any Invitations that are sent to you...as that is how you get sucked in-your best friends name is on and invitation to join,so of course you do-and from that moment on-they own any information that they can get about you and anyone you know-then behind your back-they sell that info,to a lot of people...in fact to millions of people-through mass mailings--They need to be STOPPED!!!...(Will Continue)
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 18, 2013 11:54:19 GMT -5
Pardon me for laughing but if this pervert sues you for harassment; then all of HIS dirty laundry and past sins will come out in public. I think his fellow choir members would be looking at him very differently if they only knew of his history.Robert
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 18, 2013 11:56:32 GMT -5
If I was guilty or not guilty, my reaction would be the same. “Of course not. And I don’t know who it is either. I just hope the finally catch the guy”. Yet this knucklehead threatens a harassment suit? Hmm…perhaps he knows more about the OCCK than he is letting on. Dean
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 18, 2013 11:59:56 GMT -5
Original Contact: LinkIn Member Comment: Helen Dagner 07/16/2013 16:32 I want off of your site and want you to stop contacting my email contacts from yahoo-PLEASE!!! You have caused me un told damage-by sending lists out with all my contacts on-These people have given me confidential information in serial child murders-and thanks to you-every one will now know that!!! Thanks for your time-I would appreciate your taking care of this as soon as possible- Best Regards,Helen Dagner
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