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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 11, 2013 1:31:30 GMT -5
Helen, Yeah…maybe you can make sense of it! Lol. I’m trying to order his criminal background check but the @*%^^@# State Police site is not cooperating!!! It’s so stupid!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 11, 2013 1:38:21 GMT -5
Helen, Hey, just sent those files from my desktop email account, which is a lot easier to use then xxxxx. Look for it - a may take a minute or two to download the files. Scott Note: Well I can wait another few Min. after all it has been 37 years....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 11, 2013 1:40:26 GMT -5
Helen, On who? Xxxxxx ? Hope that’s not what you meant. Probably meant his brother—yes, I did, those are the ones that say Xxxxxx Xxxxx Dave
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 11, 2013 22:45:52 GMT -5
I am looking for------anyone who recognizes these names --from Bloomfield Twp. Michigan In the mid to late 70's ------Murise Layell---------Velvidier--------Huecross--------- Contact Helen, Bingotank@aol.com
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 11, 2013 22:53:37 GMT -5
I am interested in anyone that was a regular at Biff's Restaurant at Maple and Telegraph-1976 and 1977 who knew a David,that came in there everyday.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 11, 2013 23:02:06 GMT -5
I am Interested In anyone who saw a blue and white Thunderbird-(old classic model}-that was painted as if it had a white hockey stripe at any time during 1976-77 parked at Biff's on Maple and Telegraph,for long periods of time.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 12, 2013 0:03:28 GMT -5
Jason,An eliminator, would be a description that only the killer could have of how and where the children were held,and what went on for that period of time so that he was able to keep them for that length of time.....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 12, 2013 3:41:02 GMT -5
Former Child Protective Service Worker Oakland County Child Killer? In the 1970's in Oakland County, Michigan, United States, there was a series of child murders known as the Oakland County Child Murders. I was about 10 years old at the time living in Oakland County and the children who were killed were about my same age at that time so I remember the events very well. Today, in Birmingham, Michigan, a place where one of the children was abducted, a man named William Shaffer is being investigated for having $7,000 dollars of child pornography in his home. This man also worked for Child Protective Services in Oakland County so this begs the question: did he have anything to do with the Oakland Child Killings. He is 71 years old and would have been in his 30's at the time. The murders have never been solved and at the very least this man should be considered a potential suspect. Was he investigated when the murders happened? I will endeavor to find out. Take a look at this report about a very dangerous and wicked old man who may have more secrets than anyone suspects.http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/oakland_county/feds-say-former-child-protective-services-employee-purchased-nearly-7k-in-child-porn Posted 1 week ago by don miles -In a Google Alert Today-Todays UFO Postings Are from Don's Blog donmilesxfiles.blogspot.com/
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 12, 2013 16:17:12 GMT -5
Ok- This is a needle in a Hay Stack--Did you ever attend a party at a basement apartment on 5th street in Royal Oak Michigan,that may or may not be connected to a church,and see or meet a guy named CB,or a guy called "Jack" and a guy called Sloan also a guy called Tom?? Everyone except for "Jack had a "Mustache"-This would have been between 2-20-76 and 3-25-1977-Lots of Photos were taken-Do you have any of those photos?? Contact me at Bingotank@aol.com Thanks!!!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2013 0:56:58 GMT -5
Helen
I corresponded with you a few years ago. I even sent you some photos of the local area and some important sites. My brother played baseball with Timmy's brother and I would play on the sidelines with Tim. The OCCK was and still is my "boogie man."
I just found out today about William Shaffer. He was a close family friend. He coached my baseball teams with my dad. My family took him in as a kind of lost soul. He always stopped by on Christmas eve and would check up on the family, even in the past years. He was odd, but never did I feel that there was anything even remotely sexually threatening in any of his behavior.
It is horrifying to hear the recent news reports. I don't know if he was involved, but he certainly knew the King's and was around children. I never even made the connection that he could be a suspect.
Please let me know what else you hear and what is not being printed. Does he have any connection with John? Xxxxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 14, 2013 0:08:32 GMT -5
Helen,Did you know that Barry King Is Bad Mouthing you,Why would he do that? Xxxxx *Note: To answer your question,with all the people I talk to everyday on the Occk cases-How could I not know? As for the second part of your question, "Why would he do that?" Why Indeed?Well what comes to mind is that Life is truly a thankless job, with many thankless people,and Barry King,Just Happens To Be One Of Those People ...So what was said by Barry King? I'm going to answer that,and then we will put this subject to bed,I'm not going to go back over years,I'm not even going to go back through months,his latest statement was made in the last few days,someone was talking to him,and they stated I have been talking to Helen Dagner,and he very abruptly told that person,my daughter Cathy and I think she is a Quack!...So there you have it...Now it is case closed!!!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 14, 2013 18:53:31 GMT -5
Note: If you have already started to read the Mike-Mark Stebbins postings,and I see a lot of you have-be sure to go back over it often as much of the Information will be changing-as we are correcting all the old -wrong Info-and the only way to do that is to post what I have and then go from there-I have no place left to store anything-so I'm using the site to do that-and yes-it is getting to be a mess and hard to find anything -unless you take the time to really look-However I am more interested in getting the true facts out there-when I accomplish that -then I can start on making the site -user friendly ---Thanks for understanding--
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 14, 2013 18:58:22 GMT -5
Another note: I am really behind in the Feedback and everyone of your posts are important to me as well as to the other readers----I guess when I made all these phone calls out to the perverts and the people who know them...I wasn't thinking -that many of them would call me back---AND THEY ARE ALL CALLING BACK!!!---It is taking far more time out of my regular routine,then I can handle and still keep up with the site--So again thank you for your patient ....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 14, 2013 19:24:09 GMT -5
Note : The changes in the first Prg. of the Stebbins thread-Mark was not going to the Hobby store-he wanted a quarter to buy ice cream---(Correction reads)----When Mike Stebbins and his brother Mark jumped in the car with his Mom and her boyfriend to ride up to the American Legion Hall on Sunday,February 15th,they were laughing and giggling and teasing each other and looking forward to having a lot of fun,eating a lot of snacks and downing a lot of soda pop,and playing some pool and listing to their favorite tunes on the Jude Box......They had been there for a while,and Mark asked his Mom for some money to stop at the, store right next to the ALH he wanted a quarter to buy an ice cream cone to eat on the way home,Mike knew his mother didn't have any money that day so Mom said I don't think so today,as you have already had your allowance, Mark was ok with that, then he asked if he could walk home to watch his favorite show on TV ( The Bill Kennedy show )....His Mom Ruth said Ok,but I want you to go right home. Mike said I will walk with you if you want me to.Mark turned a round with a big smile and laugh and said, no I can do this,( after all he was 12 years old! )you stay and finish your game of pool,I will see you at home~Mike last saw his Brother at approximately 12:25 p.m. at The American Legion Hall at 9 mile and Livernois in Ferndale. Confirmed by Ruth Stebbins on the radio tapes~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 14, 2013 19:36:30 GMT -5
Another Correction----The family's suffering did not end with the funeral. After the murder Mark's embittered brother Michael, now 17, stopped studying, began to just hang out and got into some bad habits that he regrets to this day . His mother, too distraught to work, had come to rely on welfare and, occasionally, Valium. She campaigns tirelessly to warn parents of the dangers confronting their children, but her exertions did not ease her grief. "Every time a child has been killed since Mark," she said, "it happens to me all over. I still think about it every day."
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