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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 3, 2011 22:32:40 GMT -5
Helen, What I want to know is did he lie about any evidences?Ken-Note -yes a lot of it-I just read where he was listing what I said John told me about Jills back pack-and he says I told him about the blanket-well that sure didn't come up in any conversation with him in 1992-as I never even heard about the blanket until 2003 when Tobias called me and asked if I knew where the blanket was? I told Tobias-what the hell are you talking about-I don't know anything about a blanket-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 3, 2011 23:16:00 GMT -5
Helen,Did Studt add things to other peoples interviews?Ron-Note -No they are all accurate as far as I can tell.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 3, 2011 23:31:15 GMT -5
What about the interviews he did with Johns family,how where they?AL- Note-Very weak-actually pathetic-and then you can see that he couldn't pin them down to any dates-they just wouldn't commit-I notice that the golden boy told a different story than John had told me-about getting to Fla-John told me he flew into Flint and hitchhiked to Birmingham where his brother picked him up in a truck and then they went to Fla-but the brother said John hitchhike to Fla from New York-then John told me they went to his fathers and the brother said John live with him (the brother for 6 weeks)I knew he had not went to his fathers because when I interviewed the father it was the early 2000s and John had never been to his home-also interesting to note -is his father was never interviewed by police even by phone -yet the Dad was interviewed by members of the original Task Force and not about John before the Dad moved to Chicago in 1977-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 4, 2011 0:14:20 GMT -5
If your email post doesn't appear here yet-it is only because I haven't read it yet-it should be up in a few days...so hang in there-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 4, 2011 14:08:08 GMT -5
Hey Guys,You need to quit emailing and calling the News media-I was only making a statement before I hung up on the Attorney Generals office-when I said I would see the guy on Tv-I have no intention of joining in the media circus about the Oakland County Child Killer cases-One of the reasons-is because no one can possibly tell their story about the Occk-in a 5 min news cast at 11o'clock at night-It takes you longer than that to talk to one of the reporters when they call-or to answer their email-as most of them have no clue to what is going on-and besides that-are total media coverage with the sites.videos and google-far exceed their coverage-and what we post on the site and on Youtube and in the major search engines-we are every where-and that will be around forever-unless their is a nuclear blast-But thanks again -I do appreciate your efforts-I always have....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 4, 2011 14:12:04 GMT -5
Helen,Look at the three Sketches on the header for this site,do you not think that one looks like John and Two looks like Mike and three looks like Chris?Kay Note-Sorta....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 4, 2011 17:13:25 GMT -5
Scott, I want to focus on John being the killer (not the cover-up by LE- I'll let you handle that). Of course, I will credit you with all the information you've complied over the years for me and I do appreciate the fact that you believe my story. Scott you can briefly discuss the character assassination LE has done on me but more of the focus should be on Hastings, the OCCK killings and the water tower death of Tony Mitchell. also, his motive (anger with society, dysfunctional family, John McKinney, etc.)..as you know the judge won't have time to listen to much-just try to get his opinion on where he thinks we should go from here. Have fun golfing!!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 4, 2011 18:18:41 GMT -5
Hey Helen. Did Mr. Studt ever write any of the episodes of Barney Miller. I thought I saw his name credited on the old TV show.jeff
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 4, 2011 18:46:33 GMT -5
Helen,I would say Studt is Mud! Jack--Note-omg and Jack I know you must have put a lot of thought into that post,lol
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 4, 2011 21:55:04 GMT -5
As I read these FOIA papers-and see Dons reports-It is very clear he has some type of mental disorders -I'm sure I'm not the first one to notice this-as you can not hide stuff like this-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 4, 2011 22:43:49 GMT -5
Helen I'm a little confused with one of your post. I thought it was stated on Todd's website that you told John you were writing a book on the OCCK. I must be missing something here as now you state you never said that. I know most of the stuff stated in that report appears as nonsense but on this particular item, I'm confused.Tim-Note-LOL-yes you did see that in the original story -I told that to John the first time I had coffee with him and the mother of his child-He asked me what I was doing with my life-and I said -Oh I'm going to write a book on serial killers-and he said well maybe I can help you find one-It was just a pick up line-The mother of his child had told me earlier that day-That John had come up behind her when she was washing dishes and out of the clear blue sky he said I was Interviewed by the original Oakland County Child Killer Task Force-and she thought there mite be something to that-So yes I did say that to John-But I sure didn't say it to Studt or anyone else-Here Is The Original Story-It should be in here some where cloakdagner.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=comments&action=display&thread=128
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 5, 2011 0:03:01 GMT -5
Helen I think you just nailed it on the head! I hate to say it but perhaps a lot of what Don wrote about you was base on what John told him. Which one of you is more convincing to talk to, you or John? Base on what I read in the docs you shown it appears that John was more convincing than you. It doesn't matter who is telling the truth but who was most convincing to Don. Jack-note-I can not wrap my brain around this tonight-You will be able to decide this on your own as I plan to run Johns Interview-one post at a time-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 5, 2011 0:14:15 GMT -5
WOW!!!!!!!! I have 2 long days covering kwame kilpatricks release from prison…but can we talk Wednesday? Kevin -----Original Message-----
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 5, 2011 17:13:41 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 6, 2011 3:26:54 GMT -5
Helen do they have anything on Busch that connects him to these killing? Brad- Note -Nothing that I know of except for 7 very good liars that are willing to testify and will be doing so at the Grand Juries.
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