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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 22, 2013 18:47:54 GMT -5
Helen, Motor City Auto Legacy "The offense that earned him a life sentence occurred on Oct. 1, 1983, in Detroit. At the time, Sloan was living in a house trailer in the abandoned Packard Plant complex on the city's east side."
Makes you wonder if he had access to the trailer a few years earlier. Also makes you wonder how many people were "cleared" by LE because they supposedly had nowhere to keep the victims. Scott
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 22, 2013 18:52:14 GMT -5
Helen, Check this out: criminologyresearch.org/blog/2009/07/visit-with-wayne-williams/I didn't read the actual article, but down in the comments section Ben Harbor has a lot to say about the Atlanta Child Murders. He claims Wayne Williams was part of a larger group of people committing murders based on the first letters of the names of the victims. Inspector 71 claimed that he figured out the OCCK based on the first letters of the names of the locations where the kids were taken and placed later. Ben also alludes to connections to law enforcement, and he says he's figured out murder patterns in other cities. It seems very likely that this is "Bob." He also sounds a bit like Detroit Dan, except this guy seems to think that a bunch of killers (not just one) were trained and/or coerced to carry out similar crimes around the country. Kooky.Xxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 23, 2013 1:57:28 GMT -5
Let's see how good my Google powers are: is this guy's name David Ducharme? Xxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 23, 2013 1:59:20 GMT -5
Not that I can tell, but he is affiliated with (get this) Vineyard Church of Royal Oak, but of course it has no connection to the Vineyard restaurant on his uncle's map. He also has ties to Harvest Christian Church in Detroit, which used to be located near his mom's house, I believe. Do any of that generation know Uncle John? Does he ever see his daughter anymore? I noticed that she's very religious too (on her Facebook page). Also, according to his Facebook page, Tom moved to Atlanta in 1971. I remember something about John claiming to be there in the late 70s. And again in the 2000s, of course. xxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 23, 2013 2:01:58 GMT -5
Helen, Les is disturbing. Jim
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 23, 2013 2:03:51 GMT -5
Wow, that was quick. Thanks for the update. By the way, Is that person who sent you that message about McKinney and a boyfriend who was sent to a mental institution after confessing to Gray and Anger (the one who got chest hair shaved) reliable? Xxxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 23, 2013 2:05:44 GMT -5
Helen, 1) do you know who the suspect is? 2) If so, is it someone whose name would be familiar, and does the suspect seem viable to you? (I'm keeping it vague, but you know who would fit the bill) Dean
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 23, 2013 2:07:47 GMT -5
Hi Helen...maybe you know more, but all I can find out about Harvest is that they are one of a group of churches that worship this guy, a supposed prophet based in Malaysia: www.jonathan-david.org/dr_jdWhile that's kooky, I can't find any link to the Christian Temple Association. On a side note, I double-checked that Clawson address, and the house is listed to xxxx Xxxxxx, not Mckinney, with a birthdate of 1947. No idea what time period that is for. B
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 23, 2013 15:51:40 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 24, 2013 10:20:34 GMT -5
The numbers that were in the *Occk Task Force Operation ESP Report* You can read the report by Jerry Tobias..on operation ESP-In the book-WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING by TOMMY McINTYRE...The Search For A Child Killer-Chapter 31-start page 200-208.... I haven't found the time to look this up on our site yet-but i will~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 24, 2013 23:30:13 GMT -5
MAIL FROM~ Psychic Phil Jordan / Hello Helen,
Thank you for your letter. I have had many responses from people I have met through the years. I have also discovered that many of the investigation agencies solved cases with my information and failed to let me know. I guess they wanted the credit. I think the case you are referring o in Michigan is the four children that were murdered in a serial killing. I never heard the out come of the case and never knew if there was an arrest. If it is this case perhaps you could fill me in or whatever case it is that you have mentioned. Being an Aquarius I graciously worked the cases to help out and never kept too accurate records although I do have a large file on that case. Your e-mail was very gracious. I am still among the living although I had a heart attack three years ago and had three stents placed I am fine.
If it is the case I am thinking of I was not thrilled with the task force Either. I could tell you many things about that. I don't recall your affiliation with the case, but please update me. I do have three more episode coming on Psychic Detectives in the summer season beginning in June. My career has gone well. I became a funeral director and an ordained minister and have a lovely country nondenominational church built in 1866. I did publish a book as you may be aware from my website.
I hope you can fill in some of the blanks for me on the case and thank you for the compliments.
Kind regards,
Phil Jordan
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 24, 2013 23:38:54 GMT -5
I cut the date off the above letter by accident-I am still looking for the original report,and came a cross this email,and thought you mite find it interesting because it is from back in the 70s at the time of the child killings --and as you can see,there were problems back then,with the original Occk Task Force...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 25, 2013 0:04:16 GMT -5
catherinebroad.wordpress.com/ In other current Oakland County Child Murder News~** The DVD The King Family is making to document what they have seen taken place in the investigation since 2006. A professional company has handled the taping and will produce the DVD. There will be limited editing (it’s expensive) and it will be very long. It is not You Tube material. It will probably be 4-5 hours long, if not more. Mr. King has pulled this together and done the lion’s share, but two attorneys, an ex-law enforcement agent, and Cathy also participate. You can get the rest of the story at Cathy's Blog~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 25, 2013 11:23:31 GMT -5
Helen, (Kensington) from Psychic Phil Jordan's report with the following numbers - You probably already know this, but there is a Kensington Drive in Royal Oak as well as one in Ferndale. The numbers 722 and 272 would also fit in with the Kensington in Ferndale, as the addresses on that street correlate with that number series. The number 272 was one of the numbers for the pipeline,you could get the time and talk to perverts at the same time,as they always appeared on line-we never told our parents that we were calling the line however we always talked about it when we got to school the next day and everyone had a different story to tell,and almost everyone was asked from the other side of the line where do you live?
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 25, 2013 11:52:48 GMT -5
Helen, It's amazing how many people would give their information or just run out and meet people from that pipeline. Like I said, at a sleepover we called pipeline and an older guy who was on there asked how old we were and did we have pubic hair. Xxxx
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