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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 2, 2013 11:42:28 GMT -5
Helen, I have sent you 3 email posts over the last few weeks asking you about that polygrapher Patrick, why are you ignoring me? XXXX Note: Well I'm not ignoring you,I had a lot of things to check out, It is true that his Information changed the direction of the Occk Investigation,but I am still waiting for answers,so I can not answer the rest of your questions at this time.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 2, 2013 11:48:53 GMT -5
Helen, Why doesn't Law Enforcement stop that Les at Topix. He is a nut! Dave Note: Would be nice if they could-however even Crazy people have rights and this one is called Freedom of Speech...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 2, 2013 11:59:38 GMT -5
Helen, Why are you meeting with people and doing Interviews,this late in the game? Don Note: Well,because a lot of people have come forward also people that had nothing of value when I talked to them last,have decided,they need to tell me the rest of their story. Regardless if these cases get solved or not,many of us still want to know what happen.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 2, 2013 12:03:55 GMT -5
Helen, How is that coming, your talking to the guys who will cross over The Thin Blue Line? Jet Note: Very well,and we are all getting together in the last week of Aug.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 2, 2013 12:09:37 GMT -5
Helen, will we ever find out why Det. Anger thought Norberg was the Killer and then he gave up the idea just before he retired ?Ken Note: I can not answer the first part of your question,because I do not know the answer,but on the 2nd part,I was told that Det. Gray sat down with him when they were working on these cases and showed him why he didn't think so and Ray then agreed that he wasn't.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 2, 2013 12:13:58 GMT -5
Helen, what do you mean about Studt checking out the wrong house? Biff Note: Just that, he checked out the family house instead of the rental next door.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 2, 2013 13:24:21 GMT -5
Helen, did you notice that none of those blankets in Chris Busch' bedroom are on a bed? Who has that many blankets just tossed a round? I think there is something to this. Scott *Note: That is strange,we are looking into it~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 3, 2013 20:49:14 GMT -5
I need the guy who sent me this email to contact me as soon as possible-Please,Helen
From your files « Message sent Jun 2011 Hey Helen, glad to see you're still at it. As you know, I don't think Satanists are responsible for the OCCK crimes, but I am interested in other weird stuff that was going on with cults in the time period afterward. I saw you dealing with Shurter (who is delusional, while Les is a total sociopath) and you mentioned old files relating to Satanism back in 1980 and 1990. I know that investigation didn't go anywhere, and I trust you that there was nothing to it, but I'm interested in having a look at the files, if you have the time to send them. Especially the list of names you mentioned. Thanks again!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 3, 2013 22:10:08 GMT -5
I haven't received my phone call yet on the above-so I guess you best not wait for my post for tonight-as after the call-I need to hit the sack-and will post the Info when I get back up...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 4, 2013 3:35:54 GMT -5
A couple of days ago ,I had posted the story about Bill Shaffer,I left it up for a day or so and it meant nothing to me other than,I thought the name was familiar,however I see so many names I just couldn't place it, so I deleted it and replaced the story with something I thought was more Interesting, then I was over to Cathy's site and I saw and read her story about "Shaky Bill Shaffer" ( It was really a good read) and it hit me like a ton of bricks,this is the coach that was a photographer at the school in Birmingham and was on a very long list of names that was included in some old files relating to Cults and Satanism back in 1980 and 1990-I do not recall if he was also a part of that group-because this paper was just in there and was from a much earlier date,I made a mental note that he was listed on the separate paper as having been a photographer for Fox Island and it appeared by the wording that he had been arrested for this,so I know it was a legal Document...I did not look into it because as you all know I have never bought into the whole Fox Island deal. So when the guy asked me for the Cults and Satanism files that I didn't have any use for,and he said he liked names, so I put those papers in with the files, because there were a lot of names on there-Long story short (at this time)-I do not think I had them filed on the Internet and if I did, it wouldn't do me much good as I since have a new PC and Rick just tossed out the old one------hard drive and all! I have no Idea how this relates to Busch and John and the other dirt bags...But I will get those papers and we will try to get to the bottom of this.
Sorry I do not have more Info at this time~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 4, 2013 5:42:58 GMT -5
I haven't received my phone call yet on the above-so I guess you best not wait for my post for tonight-as after the call-I need to hit the sack-and will post the Info when I get back up... HELEN, THIS SOUNDS A LOT LIKE A POST LES WOULD MAKE. JACK NOTE;lol doesn't it? Thanks for the laugh,hope you have a great 4th of July!!! Our' sure started off with a Bang this am-Rick went over to the ATM and it ate our card!!! It is one that you slide your card in and then pull it out right away-only it didn't push it out!!!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 4, 2013 5:52:46 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 4, 2013 6:31:43 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 4, 2013 13:22:42 GMT -5
Helen, You and Rick are sure taking it better than I would if my card got eaten by the Bank ATM! Scott *NOTE: lol,we knew it wasn't personal,as the ATM started snacking on it before Rick put in his pin number!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 4, 2013 13:55:48 GMT -5
Helen, If your looking into Baseball Coaches,you need to look in to the Brother Rice coach that was a bully and meaner than a junk yard dog! John’s JV baseball coach, Br. Duffy was a real bully and mean.Johns Dad got into it with this guy so bad -that they all quit the catholic church over it. I myself notice that he was always angery with John,because he was such a great player,but there may have been more to it,as I saw him around some of the boys,in fact there were a couple that Br. Duffy even smile at,which was strange,because he was such a mean person,I always wonder what was up with that? Xxxxxx Xxxx Note: I will look into it,but it will be a few days as I'm running in circles now...If I were a Cop people would say ...I was chasing my tail !!!
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