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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 25, 2013 3:51:57 GMT -5
**** Tim King disappearance & murder, Barry King, LE Brooks Patterson, LE Chief Tobin, LE Robert Turner, Tim's baseball, Helen's documented information about John's situation around the dates of Tim's murder, speculation of the killer's personality, mail carriers asked to look for anything suspicious, Tim last seen standing NEAR blue Gremlin with suspect, and Tim's funeral. Name: Timothy J King Birth Date: 9 Jul 1965 Death Date: 22 Mar 1977 Gender: Male Residence: Birmingham, Oakland, Michigan Place of Death: Livonia, Wayne, Michigan/{the Michigan death record dates
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 3:41:54 GMT -5
Helen, I really enjoy reading the mail you and the Task Force and other cops have exchanged. Ben
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 3:48:29 GMT -5
Note to readers-I have Interviews and appointments nearly everyday till Sept. So this will cut down on my daily posting.Feedback may not be a daily event,I receive so much mail that it is nearly impossible to keep up-I guess what I'm trying to say is get off those computers and enjoy your summer,there is nothing about these cases,that can not wait...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 3:54:58 GMT -5
About my answers to you by Yahoo emails,most of you have complaints that I'm not answering yours I do answer every email,and Yahoo is having a lot of problems with there new software-I even sent emails to myself and received back a mailer demon,saying it was being returned because I do not have and acct. at Yahoo lol -So if you send me an email and I do not respond- then I guess you can call me-or re send it ....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 4:04:01 GMT -5
Some of our readers are getting pretty lazy--yes we still feature current news items that we think you will find interesting...all you need to do is stroll down to the bottom of the site...you will find them
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 4:08:15 GMT -5
Ok...for all that have asked-I will not be posting the results of the Busch friends Interview any time soon...I still have to check all this Info out...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 4:14:57 GMT -5
Yes of course I was delighted to find that the FOIA papers that Cathy has just posted in the pass few days,reflect that everything John told me was true....However I was also deeply disturbed to see so many errors and omissions in the reports,that were made by authority's....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 4:45:38 GMT -5
I finally have found out how the children most likely were smothered, so I have no Idea why the Medical Examiner could not figure it out-- Mark and Tim were drugged and then a pillow for some reason was put over Tim's face and pushed down with the entire weight of a person who weight over 150 pounds-this was known back in the day (1977) and although there was a clean Toxicology screening,the drug could not be detected-today it would be possible, however Tim was cremated,but they still have flesh slides that could be used to determine this--If you think I am being vague about this-It is only because this info would need to be explained to you by a Dr. -coming from me it would just be mumbo-jumbo-...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 5:00:12 GMT -5
I think Robert that you can find your answers here * Detectives in 1976 retrieved materials from Sloan's 1966 Pontiac Bonneville. Prosecutors do not believe that hairs recovered in the vehicle belonged to Sloan, but say they came from someone else. Sloan allowed others to use his car. PONTIAC (WXYZ) - During a news conference Tuesday afternoon, the Oakland County Prosecutor announced significant new developments in the Oakland County Child Killer case. CLICK HERE TO WATCH THE NEWS CONFERENCE LIVE Mobile Users use this link: bit.ly/WXYZliveMobileProsecutors say there is a mitochondrial match from a vehicle belonging to a man named Arch Sloan who is currently serving a life sentence in Michigan. A hair found in the vehicle is a match to murder victims Mark Stebbins and Timothy King. Arch Sloan is currently in prison in Michigan. He's 70 years old. Detectives in 1976 retrieved materials from Sloan's 1966 Pontiac Bonneville. Prosecutors do not believe that hairs recovered in the vehicle belonged to Sloan, but say they came from someone else. Sloan allowed others to use his car. Sloan was arrested in Pennsylvania in 1970 for a molestation case and paroled to Michigan. After Mark Stebbins was abducted, the Pennsylvania parole officer alerted detectives here that Sloan should be a person of interest in the Oakland County Child Killer case. At this point there are no forensic matches to the other murder victims, Jill Robinson or Kristine Mihelich. Between 1976 and 1977 four Oakland County children were abducted, held for days and murdered. 7 Action News has learned Sloan has a history of five criminal convictions for sex crimes. In 1959, when he was only 18, Sloan was found guilty of gross indecency. In 1979, he was found guilty of 4 th degree criminal sexual conduct in Howell, and third degree criminal sexual conduct the following year in Alpena. In 1985, Sloan was found guilty of two counts of first degree criminal sexual conduct, and is currently serving a life prison. Read more: www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/action-news-investigators-learned-theres-a--significant-breakthrough-in-the-oc-child-killer-case#ixzz20uWfaAwh
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 5:10:13 GMT -5
Oh good grief. How discouraging. Well, I guess it's a start, after 36 yrs, they are asking you something. Maybe by the time we're all dead we can get an investigation going. I wonder why the xxxxx would really tell you anything that xxxx is thinking? Seems fishy, unless it was just in passing. How could Gray think they weren't related cases?? So that means they can't solve 4 different crimes by 4 different people either? I don't remember the blanket now. Jill had a a blanket in her backpack also? Tobias said she didn't, but the lab has it. Let me guess, still waiting to be processed. You said they haven't started the other cases, but did they finish Jill's? or Kristines? ----- Original Message ----- Xxxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 12:01:40 GMT -5
Helen, have you been following Topix? Les and Patrick are posting things that don't even make sense. Dale Note: I just do not go there often as that is time in my life that I can never get back....it is truly a wast of anyone's time as for Les and Patrick,they are cut from the same cloth...the Ding Bat pattern...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 12:31:29 GMT -5
Hey, I won't be reading any more site email posts until later -I'm trying to find out the distants between Jills fathers home and a basement apartment on 5th street in Royal Oak,and Google map won't let me....and no you can not help as I won't give out the address to anyone...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2013 12:42:17 GMT -5
Look if you need something to do today....find me a photo of Gordon Moses West Bloomfield Hills-He hung out at the Hartfield Lanes bowling Alley Bar-He had a foreign sports car- and 2 Terrier Puppies -He lived alone...back in 76-77 he lived on Bacon. in Berkley.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 27, 2013 0:08:42 GMT -5
Helen, Do you think a Cop is involved? Anthony* Note: I have no proof that there was However someone close to the original investigation,who saw the original reports must of showed them or gave them to a Non-Law Enforcement person,as someone I interviewed in 1991,quoted 3 different subjects verbatim and that is just to much of a coincidence,I think, unless of course they are the greatest Psychic every known
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 27, 2013 0:09:47 GMT -5
Helen, are their any LE actually working on these cases at present? Eric * Note: If there is ...I would have to say it is the best kept secret in Law Enforcement
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