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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2013 9:10:07 GMT -5
Yes Jon. I do understand what your asking me to produces, you want to see a legal document that states that Tim's skateboard was a collected item at the time of his death and had been with him, well I do not have a document like that, I don't even know if one exist and I'm not sure if his skateboard was even with him-I have never been a big fan of the book (Wolf In Sheep's Clothing ) But Les Martin knows it word for word and I bet Phil and Detroit Dan do also,you can find them over at the cesspool,there on site 24-7,they can probably help you out...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2013 9:13:14 GMT -5
Helen, how many police files do you think are inaccurate in these occk cases? Tom *Note: To be on the safe side of a guess...I'm going to say all of them!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2013 9:16:13 GMT -5
Helen, How soon before you will have the match files done? Sgt. * Note you are so funny, I will not live long enough to match up this mess and neither will anyone else, that is reading this post today...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2013 9:21:06 GMT -5
You know,I haven't decided yet if I will even take on this deal -I'm getting real tired of entertaining some of you-You have absolutely NO Idea-the hours that would have to be spent on these cases-to bring you the real story....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2013 9:27:33 GMT -5
Your concerns about your Feedback are justified, I'm so far behind on it,I don't even know what to say to you-I will try to get it up....You have to remember-I have been on the Phone a lot with this case and also I have so much reading to do on it--and yes,I am falling behind on that also...I certainly can not claim that I have a life too-as this Occk Saga has and is sucking that life out of me...and everyone else ...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2013 11:45:10 GMT -5
Helen,Why in the world would LE want him to stay away from Kristen's grave? Det. Anger seems like a bumbling detective to me. -----Original Message----- * Note-I already have that info in a post for Kris story for tonight-So your answer will be there-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2013 11:47:25 GMT -5
Helen, That picture on your site that John drew - do you know "when" he drew it approximately? It sure looks like his life story with arrows, one going thru his baseball career and how about the boy falling (Anthony Mitchell)?I have other interpretations of his drawing, as well. Xxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 23, 2013 3:55:19 GMT -5
Helen, Some of us just can't help but wonder why anyone would care to keep their word to people who have murdered innocent children.
Loyalty to a serial killer in protecting his identity. Now, that's a new one for the books! You caring about keeping your word to "John" is an insult to the victims, if nobody else. Xxxx *Note: It doesn't mean I condone what John did..I'm not going to debate-this issue with you...or anyone else...sorry..
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 23, 2013 4:10:48 GMT -5
Helen, I am liking the conversation. Ideas being bounced around can sometimes lead us where we didn't know we were going and find us in a new place. For you that's probably less true. I am sure nothing about this is new to you. Twenty years of knowing is along time. I just wish they would look at some of the "lack" of "known" evidence as a point of interest. At this point I am wondering if looking at what we don't see or have or understand is where some of the answers will be. Just because there isn't the public perception of evidence against JH or McKinney doesn't mean there isn't any. An example might be that, How did he know so much of what was not known and was it really not known or was it that it wasn't looked at as significant by all or just a few or no one? His connection to others is not insignificant unless he is insignificant which he is not - he is somehow very significant. Obviously there is fire because there has been so much smoke. I believe that is true of his neighbor and his possible mentor. Were they involved? Maybe-maybe not but how then do their paths lead back to this case? Xxxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 23, 2013 4:35:43 GMT -5
It is a very small world,imagine,my being in Petoskey for 5 years now and having someone walk up to me and out of the clear blue sky,introduce him self as a best friend of Chris Busch and wanting to know if he could talk to me about him??....and you know how when you are stunned you say the Dumbest things,and regret it immediately after-well I did...In my zest to act nonchalant ...I said, I will have to check my calendar,give me your phone number and I will get back with you...(.I thought Rick would pass out.) as he is well aware of the time I have put in trying to find friends of Chris Busch'..so anyway long story short,I will be speaking with him in a couple of days.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 23, 2013 5:38:58 GMT -5
It is 6:35 am ( my time) and I already have three emails asking me,does the Busch friend know John?...This is Sunday morning you must all be on your way to church...I haven't asked him yet,but that will be my first question...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 23, 2013 5:42:21 GMT -5
Helen, I just read your posts about the guy who was contacting the FBI about Kris' DNA,isn't that a bit strange? Robert * Note: In the Occk cases? Not at all...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 23, 2013 5:47:54 GMT -5
Helen, I tried to get on your site so many times and I get a message that says Site Not Available,that has not happen to me before. Dan Note: Well I would like to say it is because of so much traffic...However it is just a problem with some new soft ware...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 23, 2013 6:11:59 GMT -5
Helen, I just read your post on Kris" Is this true, Her body was completely frozen? Jess Note: No it is not true
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 23, 2013 6:15:37 GMT -5
Helen, from the same post."She was wearing the same clothes as when she disappeared, a navy parka and jeans." Is this true? Matt * Note: No it is not true
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