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Post by Helen Dagner on May 23, 2013 2:15:48 GMT -5
Helen, Why do you want to speak with Seahom class of 1976?Because that is when xxxxxx xxxxxx graduated- Is this to get information on Chris Busch? Pete
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 23, 2013 2:18:59 GMT -5
Helen, You know why I understand much of it? Because my family lived in Bloomfield Hills /Birmingham during this time and I always felt 75% of other families in the area had more than we did (although it was probably closer to 33-50%). They were a lot of rich snobby kids. Now, my dad had an excellent job with Ford yet some of the auto money in this area was "obscene" for lack of a better word. The houses in the Cranbrook area (eg. Iacocca's) were like castles (where Anthony Mitchell lived). Royal Oak is about 20 minutes away but I can certainly drive up there this weekend (I'm off work until Wednesday but am going to xxxxxxx for one today, tomorrow). Or I could go next week during my lunch hour. I think you once told me Tom and Nancy used to live on Thirteen Mile, near Beaumont hospital. Whenever you get the address, send it on. I'd could take a picture with my phone camera, too. Xxxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 23, 2013 2:22:15 GMT -5
Helen, The picture of the boy screaming (Mark Stebbins). Isn’t there a way forensics (handwriting experts) can determine whether or not John drew that picture or even Busch drew that picture??? If John drew that picture it ties him with Busch and LE can go from there. Pat
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 23, 2013 2:26:08 GMT -5
Helen, I thought the mother of John's child had the manicure set. I'm not sure why I thought that. Have you been in contact with her at all?Sid
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 23, 2013 2:30:29 GMT -5
Helen, Please keep me posted. Even though John went to my high school (which I am ashamed to admit) I want this creep to suffer in prison and pay his dues to society for the rest of his life. He's gotten away with it for WAY too many years. Xxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 23, 2013 2:35:14 GMT -5
Helen, Is that confiscated Busch film still in police possession? There has to be victims/participants in it who the police can interview. Ray
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 24, 2013 14:32:32 GMT -5
Helen, Cathy posted about a OCCK/Doug Wilson information file on her site,and she said that there were over 100 pages in the FBI file that were redacted.Do you know anything about this? Margret * Note: Margret I haven't had time to go over to Cathy's site and find what you are referring to-But I think I know from my own experience on trying to get Info on Doug Wilson,he had done some posting quite a while back on Topix and Reasoning was engaged in posting with him- He signed his post as Mr. Wilson-so I didn't know his first name was Doug. Now that I know that, it raises a lot of questions for me-This is why-He is the man that claims he saw Tim just before his abduction,he recognized him by his skateboard-well I wanted to touch base with him so I called quite a few LE to inquire about what his first name was,and no one would tell me-Now if I would have known this over all these passed years that his name was Doug,I probably would have let go of it-Now of course, now that I know it is Doug,I am really wondering-Because I'm sure you all have read on my sites for years that I was looking for a Doug,because John said his very, very, best friend was named Doug...after a few years I thought maybe it was the Doug, connected with Busch and Greene.but could not connect that either-then this guy shows up in a news article a few weeks back,about the story of seeing Tim just before his abduction...Well If he is reading this -I would like him to call me-If for no other reason then to rule him out as John's friend Doug.
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 24, 2013 16:09:18 GMT -5
I'm working on something else, but I notice this email in the file-(Sent: Sun, Jan 3, 2010 1:08 am Subject: Pastor Park Livonia I am quite familiar with Pastor Park in Livonia. I am also sure I know someone who knows the person you asked about that worked for Troy PD. What is the connection to these cases? Maybe I can help you out. Wilson * Note:-I never answer this email, because he wanted to know what the connection to these cases was-That put up a red flag for me...I don't know what the hell this is doing in the file I'm working on,as I'm not working on Pastor Park in Livonia...
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 24, 2013 18:15:00 GMT -5
Helen, I've read the entire FBI file on the bumper impressions. The entire investigation into those impressions. The only thing that can be determined for certain, was that it was one of several models of General Motors products...1 a Buick, 1 or two models of Pontiac's.....Nothing that would enable us to narrow the scope down to 1 particular car......It will not be very helpful other than being able to compare with cars owned by suspect(s) I did however get excited when I saw your photo of the car you sent me, and I am already checking it out. D-a-m-n I wish I could come up with the kind of stuff you do from people. Hey don't send this to the MSP or Sheriffs Dept.until I have checked it out,ok? Xxxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 25, 2013 3:52:32 GMT -5
Helen, Has anyone notice that the 3 sketches on the suspect Gallery photos, look just like John and his two brothers? Mary-*Note: Yes, everyone who knows the family has said the same.
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 25, 2013 3:56:08 GMT -5
Helen, Knollwood Country Club is very close by Sutters Lane. Dave
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 25, 2013 3:59:26 GMT -5
Any clue if Spike did in fact have a dark side--or is it still speculation?
Scott
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 25, 2013 4:03:11 GMT -5
Helen,
Sorry, I didn’t get back to you sooner. I was just tied up with things.
Funny, I watched a crime episode last night and there was a case about a guy in Michigan (David Draheim) who killed a lady (Jeannette Kirby) using a knife and flexible handcuffs (hand ties) back in the 80s. The hand ties led to his arrest. The thing I recall is that he passed a lie detector test years earlier. The policeman believed that psychopaths can pass lie detector tests because they have no remorse over the killings. Matt
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 25, 2013 4:07:02 GMT -5
Helen, Hi Helen,
So they refuse to take lie detector tests. LE really missed an opportunity the last time they had John take one (didn’t ask the correct questions, with the right tone, etc.).
Certainly, their unwillingness to undergo the test indicates the probability they are hiding something and LE should see right thru that (at least you’d think they would).
So, what is the latest on the case? Will we hear any info. soon? Thanks.Geo
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Post by Helen Dagner on May 25, 2013 4:13:23 GMT -5
Helen,Will do as soon as the report comes on tonight. But if you don’t mind, I am very curious and was wondering about John and Dr. Danto. Did he ever mention him to you as his psychiatrist or perhaps he was Tom’s? I just find it strange that he would put his name on the maps . Ted
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