|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 9:53:32 GMT -5
CORRECTION-Johns daughter was 6 yrs old at the time I met John-I have stated she was a toddler -I made that assessment because she was the sane size as my children at 2 years old-sorry about that-
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 10:26:49 GMT -5
Helen You are posting to fast for us to keep up and I always wonder what I have missed.Sue _Note well you won't have to worry about that any longer-as we are getting so much info in-that we can not keep up-so reading all this material,is going to slow things down a great deal
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 10:43:40 GMT -5
Helen,this doesn't make a bit of since to me,why did they not include Tim in that testing? Mel-*-Note -Why Indeed?
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 12:51:05 GMT -5
Helen, are you all done making the Occk Videos?Geo-Note-Not at all-Just taking a break,so we can get through the new information-
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 12:59:33 GMT -5
Helen,what do you think was the question which was indicative of deception at Johns last polygraph ? Kevin---Note-This is just a guess but maybe it was (Are you hiding any knowledge about the Oakland County Child Murders of 76-77)?
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 14:35:24 GMT -5
Helen, I remember not to long ago that you posted that you didn't think it was a good idea for the judge to allow the Kings to get the FOIA papers because the case was still open,did you want to change your mind on that? Bev -Note-Well I have this to say-God Bless The Kings For Not Giving Up!!! And Thank You Very Much!!!
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 16:36:41 GMT -5
Helen, Lilly is really hiding from Reasoning,since he wanted her to confess that Lilly is Cyber.I guess she doesn't realize we all knew that.Pam
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 16:40:02 GMT -5
Helen,You know d-a-m-n well. The question is what does Keeper & Candy have to say about it? Tess- Note I have not read the posts so I don't know what to tell you...
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 16:43:08 GMT -5
What cracks me up Helen,is she denies ever reading your site,does she think we are all crazy. Everyone with and Interest in the Oakland County Child Murders,reads your site!Sal
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 20:50:46 GMT -5
Oh Jesus-another Lilly..I bet Terri is all over this. notnewintown
Belmont, MI
26 min ago
Judged: [Spam]
1 [Nuts]
1 [Disagree]
1 My name is Les. I am a 56 year old man. I was married to the killers sister for 32 years. The killer is also the same man that killed Jane Allen. He may have killed more but I can only connect him to 5 cases. Before I pour my guts out to you can you tell me a little about your interest in the case? Are you in a forum? What made you happen to read my post? Are you a police officer or connected to the police? Would you being willing to help me organize a meeting at restaurant banquet room for a face to face question and answer session? The case can will be solved right before their very eyes. Once everyone knows what I know we can all express our feelings to the OCCK task force or what's left to it that we all demand that I get a polygraph test to verify that what I am about to share with you is the truth and nothing but the truth. If I get immunity from prosecution I will share everything. for more info email kathy7unlimited@aol.com
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 21:15:50 GMT -5
Les,Let me ask you this do you have Polaroid photos? Do you know John-Did you know Chris Busch?-You do not have to demand a polygraph-ya, just go to the Task Force on your own give them your info and tell them you are willing to take a polygraph-If they think you have something of value-you will get taken care of-I need to ask why you waited so long to come forward-?Did you belong to a cult? Did your Brother -in- law like little boys?-what kind of car did he drive?What was in Jane Allens pocket when she was found? I'm sure these will be question -you should be prepared to answer...
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 22:07:10 GMT -5
Les-Is your wife related to Gunnel ? Did her brother wear a Satan ring-do you? So how familiar are you or the brother-in law with Oakland County-so are you telling us you are involved-and need immunity?-do you know what kind of cigs the brother-in law smoked? Are you trying to play us all? and do you know where Fox Island is ? Have you ever been there? How about Cass Corridor, did you have any friends that lived there-Do you or the brother-in law like to draw pictures? Well after you answer all these questions-we can ask you the hard ones....
|
|
|
Post by MustangMan on Jul 28, 2011 23:36:16 GMT -5
Pastor from the Cass Corridor — Rev. Redmond. – a known child molestor. "Red" ??
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 29, 2011 2:26:43 GMT -5
notnewintown
Belmont, Les is not on this forum. He is communication though me. His latest:
OCCK Show Details Message body You sound scared. There is nothing to be scared about. The killer is dead. Are you even too scared to tell me your first name and a little general information about yourself?
You can pass my information on to the task force but they will stonewall it. I gave the information to the task force years ago. I did it the first time without giving them contact information. They refused or ignored to follow my directions to make contact with me.
I came forward years ago but the detective I talked to was up to his neck making it public that David Norberg was the killer. I am confidently assuming that he did not want to solve the case if it meant that he had to admit he was wrong about Norberg. My information did not make it past the waste paper basket.
I tried with two other detectives (four total) so far to break through but they were all told not to talk to me anymore by the same source. By breaking through I mean to talk to my witnesses and issue me a polygraph test. The best that I can figure is they look at me as a huge embarrassment if my information solves the case after they have spent many years ignoring my leads.
Keep passing my information to other people. I want to gather a crowd. When the public hears the extensive evidence that has been ignored they will be furious. All of the detectives have tried to minimize my evidence in such ways as denying there ever was a blue Gremlin despite massive news coverage. Each detective says it was a different car. One says Opal, one says Vega, one says Maverick, one said a Torino. The witnesses were clear and adamant that it was a blue Gremlin. The killer actually drove a blue Gremlin. The exact car that witnesses saw.
The task force is trying to bow out of this case now as peacefully as possible without pissing off the families of the victims and without the embarrassment of their failures. They are hinging on some extremely thin evidence to pacify the public's demand for solving this case. Anyone with a hint of common sense will see that my information is 100 times more compelling that any other evidence they have. Without DNA testing I can prove who the killer is by one to 30 billion odds. Throw in two sources of DNA that are readily available and the odds go to trillions to one odds.
When you pile on all of the facts about the killer himself that are not known or assumed by the task force the odds that we have are man are totally incomprehensible.
So you see, I want to gather a big crowd and make my information very public. You seem so scared that you don't even want to know my information. If you know any other forum members, point them in my direction. If you want to see the evidence and information I have, just give me a little dialogue. If I don't hear any more from you, you are passing on a great opportunity to be part of history.
|
|
|
Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 29, 2011 2:28:51 GMT -5
MustangMan Guest
Pastor from the Cass Corridor — Rev. Redmond. – a known child molestor. "Red" ?? Note-Thank You I will check this out-
|
|