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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 26, 2011 17:44:47 GMT -5
Wow-lots of emails in on do I think John was involved with others--I really wish I knew how to answer that-the story i have told for 20yrs -is everything John told me--but am I finding out new things?-Yep I am and I am sick about it-but am I ready to change my mind about who John was...I don't have and answer yet-when I go back to the loose paper notes against what I am now learning-I don't know how I missed some things like-Primary Color-he sad he had a friend who's name was a primary color( Well isn't Greene a primary color?) then I read in the FOIA notes that when John worked at Biffs-there was a friend of his-a gay cook-that wore a Satan ring-in my loose notes- one time when I first was at Johns apt. I asked him who really killed the kids and he said a cult-I told him that was to far fetched for me-I'm learning more each time I read a paper...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 26, 2011 18:56:17 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 26, 2011 19:08:38 GMT -5
We have documents for all the threads-however we are so overwhelmed-will just get them up when we can-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 26, 2011 19:21:18 GMT -5
Helen.I hear your in negotiation with the media. Is that true? Cal
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 4:33:12 GMT -5
Helen, Reasoning made some great posts over at the "Bug Out Inn" He sure has Lilly on the run. Scott
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 4:34:40 GMT -5
So Helen where do we go from here? Pete- Note Backwards
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 4:38:10 GMT -5
Is there anything that can be done to correct all the bad Info that went to all the other Police agency's over the past 20 yrs? Ted-NOTE-Your kidding right?
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 4:39:49 GMT -5
Helen, What happen? Mike -Note-The problem is nothing happen!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 4:43:44 GMT -5
So what is the next step? Art-Note I can not even Imagine that there is one-and if there is a next step that can be taken-who you going to find after all this BS, that would be willing to take it?
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 4:47:41 GMT -5
Helen,you should write a book.Mary-Note And what would I say,that I watched a very solvable case go completely down the drain,because some people just couldn't get over their self?
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 4:49:26 GMT -5
Well what happen to you and Studt? Ken Note-I have no Idea who that is.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 4:51:14 GMT -5
Helen,that above post is very funny stuff,you don't know who Studt is. lol Robert
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 11:17:57 GMT -5
Hi Helen,
So you know me and my mystery novels, lol. Anyway, in this book I just finished, the Feds were using a real scum bag as a confidential informant to catch a must bigger and nastier fish. This same scum bad was committing all sorts of horrendous crimes and since the Feds needed him to catch the big fish, they were protecting him from local law enforcement. I realize it was fiction, but it still made me wonder….could Chris Busch have cut a deal with the Feds and that is why is bail was reduced and he was released? Would the Feds, back in 1977, think that an informant inside the Fox Island ring was worth the risk of letting him out?
To be clear, I still don’t believe Busch or Fox Island had anything to do with the OCCK, but where I truly do not believe the local LE would allow the OCCK to be covered up, I *could* see where the Feds may have an interest in covering up Fox Island after their informant was murdered.
Anyway, just thinking out loud again. J
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 13:01:17 GMT -5
Ok-Lets get this out of the way-so I can get to my other emails--You all want to know If I plan to sue Don Studt and the Birmingham police-NO I'm not going to-as the courts down in that area -it all takes for ever-and as you know-I don't have for ever--this isn't about money-These cases could have been solved back in 1992 or at the very latest 2004 when Robertson and Gray took over the Occk files-IF THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE RIGHT INFO-WHICH I DID PROVIDE-These cases would be history--So what am I going to do? I fight like a man-so I'm surprised they don't all know that by now=I'm not going to stay mad...I'm going to get even!-I am going to post everything that has been twisted to sound like something else-I am going to post the truth-That is going to be the weapon of my choice -and they can not stand up to that...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 14:32:09 GMT -5
Birmingham City Manager Just Called-who is-City Manager's Office 151 Martin Street, second floor Birmingham, MI 48012 Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday-Friday City Offices will be closed on City Observed Holidays
Phone: 248.530.1808 Fax: 248.530.1110 Robert J. Bruner, Jr. City Manager 248.530.1808
Christian Wuerth Assistant to the City Manager 248.530.1807-------------------------Real Nice Guy-I told him I would Not Be Sueing-However I would Be Getting Even-he understood that-and ask me -If there was anything he could do for me-I said only make sure I get a copy of the tapes-and he said yes the City Clerk was taking care of that-End of conversation~
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