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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 21, 2012 15:21:00 GMT -5
Cas Obs--Yes-Yes-That Is It-Thank You so much!!!!! It is common Ground-Well If it was a teen hang out-Why did all are Occk dirt bags hang out there?
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 21, 2012 15:40:40 GMT -5
Well this is Blowing my mind-Did they have a guest book that you had to sign in on-Were those services available to these teens??? Dr. & Spiritual counsel
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 21, 2012 15:44:01 GMT -5
Common Ground
Common Ground provides a lifeline for individuals and families in crisis, victims of crime, persons with mental illness, people trying to cope with critical situations and runaway and homeless youths. Helping people in need for more than 40 years, Common Ground serves more than 40,000 individuals per year. The majority of services are free of charge and 91 percent of every dollar received goes to direct service.
Experiencing a personal or family crisis or know someone who is?
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 21, 2012 15:47:31 GMT -5
Helping people in need for more than 30 years, Common Ground Sanctuary's mission is to provide services to youths, adults and families in crisis. The agency's 24-hour crisis hotline, youth and family services, emergency psychiatric services and other programs throughout Oakland County are a lifeline for runaway and homeless youths, families in crisis, victims of crime, people with mental illness and others in critical situations. Common Ground Sanctuary serves more than 35,000 individuals per year and is supported in part by local grants and contracts, the Oakland County Community Mental Health Authority and United Way for Southeastern Michigan. The agency received an Honorable Mention in the 2004 Crain’s Detroit Business’ Best-Managed Nonprofit contest.
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Post by Cas Obs on Jun 21, 2012 17:03:17 GMT -5
Our History, Core Purpose
Common Ground is the product of a 1998 merger of two agencies, Common Ground and The Sanctuary, Inc., that had served Oakland County since the early 1970s. The merger allowed those in the community experiencing a crisis a single source of help. The unified approach to meeting community needs enabled both organizations to expand their services significantly. Common Ground was founded in 1971 by a group of students, parents and community leaders who were concerned about an increase in substance abuse and suicide among young people. United Community Services volunteers began The Sanctuary, Inc. in response to the growing number of runaway youth in Oakland County. The residential counseling program for runaway and homeless youth, ages 10-17, opened in 1974. The program offered youth two weeks in which to resolve the conflicts that led them to leave home. Today, Common Ground is a 24-hour crisis services agency dedicated to helping youths, adults and families in crisis. Through its crisis line and in person, Common Ground provides professional and compassionate service to more than 50,000 people a year.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 21, 2012 17:12:45 GMT -5
Thanks CO,-Then I Think my Info must be accurate ,But I better call down there-to see if I can get hooked up with some one who -knows for sure---maybe they can hook me up with a former worker from 76-77
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 21, 2012 23:06:35 GMT -5
Re-Run-Helen please, if you can get off your phone. I have to speak to you asap. Also I wish these news articles were more clear when I zoom them, they get worse and are not ledgible, Even the Boy's Farms articles- even at the regular size you are sending me they are blurry and I am not clear on what they say. I only made out FRANCIS SHELDONS name. Remember when we discussed a Charlie and a David? Do you remember when we discussed a ( Mr. Pruit?) chuck/charlie? do you know or heard of a (David Smiley who drove a 197- blue gremlin) those two lived together in royal oak .Charles Pruit lived in Oscoda, he moved with his wife to the U.P., (He is coming down this weekend to visit with Gerard after several years) last I seen Charlie Pruit was in February of 2005. when they first re-opened the Occk case, I went up north to visit him with Gerard -at Gerards request for me to come along on the trip with him, Because he had something to tell Charlie and wanted me to meet him, they used to work together at Atles Steel in Troy,Mich. during the murders. Before Charlie Pruit moved to Oscoda,Mich he lived in Madison Hgts, an drove a light-light blue-white (OPAL car) or do you remember any of our conversations on any of this? Also Is John Hastings retired from his jobless job, if you know what I mean? In other words if he did ever work- did he or is he now retired? Where did John work most of his life? I know he is in Lake Orion, he lives not far from where I had been living for the past year, But I never told you this, I am not being paranoid but I believe since late last Oct, 2007 John has been following me in a Cooper Car. No I am not Schizophrenic... Don't know what year, I am pretty sure. And when C-w-w.popped through my Avatar, I started getting the feeling back then that C-W-W and John may know each other (at some angle). Along with other things I need to discuss with you -you have to get off the phone. Or do you have DIAL-UP? I think I really need to talk to you, and no I am not in a panic or hysterical,I believe I am on to something. k? thank-you Helen. Oh yea, I don't quit get your question re: the negative I sent and Is that the "father or Son". could you clarify? That is Larry xxxxxxxGerard's oldest brother/9yrs older than Gerard) high school pic from 1965, next to the composite of the man last seen with Tim King. thanks. xxxxxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 21, 2012 23:11:16 GMT -5
Re-Run-Is Hastings your accomplice ? She has no record, but neither does Gina. One of the main reasons the FBI thought Gina was in on it was because of the way the kids hairs were cut. It wasn't regular scissors that cut Kristine's hair. It was something a hair stylist would use. The killer also left a so called " Trade mark" on two of the kids that Gina also did to her victims. Carl was a suspect because of his long record, where he lived, where he hung out, the ages of the kids, and he had 2 boys and 2 girls of his own that were taken away in 1976. Once they found out about Gina's nuts, they jumped at it. Gina used her tools on the kids she hurt. They were little ones, no older than 3. She had her favorite tools. I don't remember the name of the tool that was used to cut Kris's hair. Maybe I have it in the stupid box I put away. But yes, a hair stylist, or I guess a cosmetologist might have the same stuff, was involved in Kris's death. Her hair was cut -- no matter what the cops have told you. Some of Gina's victims were sexually abused with these same tools. Sick. It doesn't mean Gina was involved with the deaths. I'm just telling you what was. John has a sister that is a cosmetologist, Right? Xxxx
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 21, 2012 23:33:32 GMT -5
Chuck is this what you wanted?? Mark~ Distance from taken-9 mile Rd-Ferndale-11 miles,22min,-Ferndale Police*~Distance to drop-10 mile & Greenfield Rd-8.4 miles,15min.~Southfield Police*
Jill:~
Distance from where taken: 13 Mile at Woodward: 5.1 miles, 10 mins, Royal Oak Police*
Distance to drop: On I -75: About 5 miles 10 min, Troy Police*
Kristine:~
Distance from where taken: 12 mile and Greenfield Rd: 6.2 miles, 13 mins, Berkley Police*
Distance to drop: Bruce Lane, 13 mile and Telegraph Rd: 3 miles, 6 mins, Franklin Police*
Tim:~
Distance from where taken: 15 Mile at Woodward: 2.6 miles, 5 mins, Birmingham Police*
Distance to drop: 8 mile Rd at Farmington: 13 miles, 22 mins. Livonia Police, Wayne Co
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2012 0:36:53 GMT -5
You will find some Feedback on all the other threads-If it was relevant-I posted it on them...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2012 9:14:02 GMT -5
Helen,
Yes, I just saw it. However, what does the fact that Charles Busch wanted protection in a witness program have to do with anything? I’m lost on this one…except for the fact LE lied to you.
Jim
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2012 9:43:30 GMT -5
Great! Keep me posted. I mean…what are the odds that TWO suspects lived on Gaylord in another city? What are the odds Hastings lived two blocks from Busch? ? Mind –boggling to me. Dean * Note-Well like Cathy always said-This is the Alice in Wonderland of Cold Cases-It just keeps on giving!!!!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 22, 2012 10:38:19 GMT -5
Helen, I understand. I think you need to call out whoever the LE person was and ask them.
Do you have anyone checking into the possible Gaylord, Redford connection. Ron
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 23, 2012 0:41:51 GMT -5
Helen, How on earth could multiple people be involved in any of these crimes and this kept a secret for over three decades? Jan-* Note-They could'nt
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 23, 2012 11:26:57 GMT -5
Helen, I did not understand this part of your post to AH Les that you just postedWhat If I told you -That you mite just see at Topix." -The Kings-Patrick and all the other family members in court on the same side of the fence? That should give you something to think about-However you will never figure it out-So torture your sole-or get a life-You are completely In the dark on these cases-And you have forgotten the main reason the rest of us are involved here-It is to get Justice For these children-by doing what ever it takes-and it is looking like there is going to have to be a group effort-and for that we will put a side are differences-" Sue---*Note-Yes I should have made this part clearer-I meant to say( "What If I told you -That you mite just see , Myself, -The Kings-Patrick and all the other family members in court on the same side of the fence?) It is very difficult to tell anyone what may go on-I'm trying to wait until after Mr. King & Jessica's Court Hearing and also Once I know the Grand Jury is over,would be a better time to get into a discussion about this-The Topic would be"-THIS CAN NOT GO ON FOREVER"
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