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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 2:54:14 GMT -5
I think the most baffling part of all of this-Is the people making up these outlandish claims -that they can not prove-are not a bunch of dummies,they are all of above average Intelligence-So what is this All about?
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 11:23:06 GMT -5
Helen, Did the Kings and Patrick pay the Detroit Free Press to run their Busch Saga? Scott-*Note well I sure hope not as it would be a waste of their money.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 11:50:55 GMT -5
You know from following me for years-that I never have been able to find much humor in the Occk cases-With me-It is all Black and White -there is no Gray area-But last night I had the opportunity to have a Big Old Belly laugh- It was just after I posted The Detroit Free Press Busch story -When the story first came in-there was a full screen Photo of Patrick and Large Photos of the Sketch and Busch-However no where-was there any photos of the Child victims-and even though I thought to myself-well everyone will be getting and email from Patrick-I never thought I would-Sure enough -I go to my Inbox-and sitting there since 1/09 am- -----Forwarded Message----------Forwarded Message----- From: "PATRICK T. COFFEY" Sent: Jun 18, 2012 1:09 AM To: Subject: Hello All, The Monday Detroit Free Press has this additional article which REALLY connects the dots in this case. As you can see I aged quite a bit since last year LOL !!!! www.freep.com/article/20120618/NEWS03/206180330/Did-suspects-Oakland-County-Child-Killer-case-get-away-with-it-?odyssey=mod_sectionstoriesPat * I would have Loved To see his face-When he looked at it a couple hours later-and he had been down sized as were Busch and the sketch-and the children were added as they should originally have been* Then I heard a rumor that a loyal reader of the Free Press had sent and email-wondering what was up-and had they too,forgotten the child victims-after all isn't this about them~ I can Imagine that the other people who receive one of the Mass emails-wondered-What?-As they wouldn't know the story- I'm sure they would have all been impressed with that full screen photo though-The Hero-Is King Size!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 12:08:22 GMT -5
helen i just watched your occk videos on... Bob Smerecki 11:51am Jun 18 helen i just watched your occk videos on youtube wow great work..i hope they can still nail john someday, dudes a psyco.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 12:42:53 GMT -5
I have so much research that I must do before I run the story's-that I have already posted the headers for-However I do want to make a few comments-First I am not writing these stories-To alienate the families-But to get accurate Info out there~ In plain English-enough is enough-None of the items in the Detroit Free Press coverage are as the facts in this investigation are--I can not for the life of myself -understand -why the FP would not check this Info out before running it-and obviously they didn't as it is all been twisted- also-I understand how someone would think-that Info coming from a family member of the victims...would be correct-but in this case-it just isn't-You see I do not consider the families members to be some type of expert-as there not- But I do not think they should be muddling this investigation -as they clearly are-and the families know-that I know this-and it has to stop- Now Mr. king said in one of the articles-That If Jessica ,returned and indictment-then he would apologize to her for every thing he has said-What? Do you honestly think that makes up for all the bad press you have given her? I don't think so-and I really understand-THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO KILLED YOUR SON-But first you will have to understand-WHO DIDN'T-I can not think of one person-In all my years working on this case-who does not want it solved-and they want It solved for You Mr. King...and the rest of the families-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 13:15:23 GMT -5
Well looks like if you run right out and buy a paper copy of the Detroit Free Press-You can be rewarded with the Big Photo Of Patrick....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 15:02:25 GMT -5
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needtolooselots has made a comment on OCCK_HD_Archives_Pt15.avi: is this john still alive...maybe i should finish all the videos before asking questions lol..great work helen your awesome
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 18:03:27 GMT -5
I apologize to all-my Youtube members and everyone else who is not interested in this case-I realize that you would like me to post more of the current news-However until we expose all these lies that have been made public lately-I need the space to get it all out there-we get this site at no cost to us-and are very happy to have it-so I don't want to load it down to much-I know you all understand that-If I had my way-trust me I would Dump the Occk saga and-get back to the things we enjoy-However I have never not finish a project that I have started-and although I never thought that I would have to be at this for 21 yrs and counting-I need to see this through for as long as I can-So that in the further-when detectives are looking at the Occk case-they will have correct information and know who to go to- working on this case is really a curse -I was told that by many who have worked on it- and I am now a believer-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 19:32:27 GMT -5
Helen, I saw that Email post by Jill's Photo, but I'm more confused.
Wasn't Jill seen near a hobby shop. How can the newspaper change that all around? Sue*-Note they do it all the time because they don't think any one will catch it-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 19:55:34 GMT -5
Helen, It states in the paper that Busch hunted the same grounds where the 4 OCCK victims were abducted. This is one thing that stands out with Mr King. I must ask though that if this pedophile crew was that organized, why would they choose the same grounds as their other activities and go to extremes for attention? I still believe that the killer was trying to make it look like Chris Busch was behind the OCCK. Perhaps the first victim, Mark is associated with both of them. This would explain objects used on the boys, the suicide looking murder, the drawing of Mark, etc. etc. Perhaps the rope was a first attempt at a suicide hanging but they changed their minds and used the rifle. This would explain why the boat ropes were spread on the floor. thingy
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 21:25:43 GMT -5
Helen, You mean to say these experts-the families-do not even know why Busch couldn't of killed Mark-You tell them Helen-or send them a copy of the FOIA papers- That I sent you. Don-*Note- Now you have done it-I didn't want to show all my cards-I wanted them to just babel on and on -until they hung them self- But I guess they have already done that-So when I get some time-I will get them up-Thanks for the reminder!!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 22:13:13 GMT -5
No mention of the murdered prosecutor Ray Gricar (or his murdered brother) No mention of the many hundreds (thousands ) of court cases(in Pennsylvania) whereas children were intentionally placed in pedophile operated institutions for the purpose of MK indoctrination No mention of Sandusky's "Second Mile" being a favored "roost" fo high falutin Penn State connected pedophiles.... No mention of what happens when you google Penn State University MK-Ultra (let alone all the projects remaining off the books so too the net) (or how many MK athletes were created and have played for Paterno who made a tidy sum in the betting game ) Just the media portraying "Jerry" as a big goofy lovable kid with a "Histrionic Personality Dis-Order" and we've ALREADY FORGOTTEN that half of the jury are directly affiliated to PSU and it's MK-Ultra Programs and funding sources have we a list of all the Second Mile supporters/adult participants ? Nebraska has substantial college football affiliations some of which are directly connected to PSU....does this indicate a high probability connectionwise to the Franklin-Cover-Up (by Senator John DeCamp) ? Anyone reading this been abused as a child ? And might like to comprehend just how organized and protected this arena is and still remains ? google Davidshurter.com......so too Franklin-Cover-Up David
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 18, 2012 22:32:22 GMT -5
All of this compelling evidence which is really not that compelling and they can't come up with someone that even resembles the sketch or description by the witness. The closes they can come is Greene and we know where he was when the sketches were conceived. The pictures I saw of Benett does not come close either. You better believe it they have a missing piece. A very big missing piece!!! Ron
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 19, 2012 2:38:25 GMT -5
Helen, Thanks for running the photos of the Bloodless Ligatures again,you always have the proof of everything you say,that is why I like to come to your site. Linda
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 19, 2012 3:29:45 GMT -5
Hey Helen, When are you going to run our emails on Mark's Crime Scene I told you what I see. Mary-* Note-Mary, I'm sorry I haven't had time to read them all yet-but the ones I have, tell me you site readers -are really sharp!
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