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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 17, 2011 12:23:26 GMT -5
In Helen's Own Words - Part 2
Helen's first contact with Tom Robinson (Jill's dad) about John, her first contact with police over the OCCK details given from John, excerpt from Jill's favorite song Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds and confirmed by a cousin, conceptual view of Hunter Maple Complex from 1977 where Tim was abducted and it's distinct shape from John's map. the various police departments listed on John's maps, parts of John's interview with police from FOIA docs, the inconclusive search for John's passport records and the inquiry of the first interview with John from 1977 with no passport reference back then, the book Wolf in Sheep's Clothing by Tommy McIntyre lend to John from Helen, an excerpt from the book that includes an interview with the first eyewitness account to Tim's abduction and the description of the man talking to Tim standing near a blue Gremlin.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 17, 2011 18:38:22 GMT -5
Only in America ........ do drugstores make the sick walk all the way to the back of the store to get their prescriptions while healthy people can buy cigarettes at the front. ___________________________________ Only in America ....... do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries, and a diet coke. ___________________________________ Only in America ...... do banks leave vault doors open and then chain the pens to the counters. ___________________________________ Only in America ...... do we leave cars worth thousands of dollars in the driveway and put our useless junk in the garage. ___________________________________ Only in America ........... do we buy hot dogs in packages of ten and buns in packages of eight. ___________________________________ Only in America ....... do they have drive-up ATM machines with Braille lettering. ___________________________________ EVER WONDER .... Why the sun lightens our hair, but darkens our skin? ___________________________________ Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed? ___________________________________ Why don't you ever see the headline 'Psychic Wins Lottery'? ___________________________________ Why is 'abbreviated' such a long word? ___________________________________ Why is it that doctors call what they do 'practice'? ___________________________________ Why is lemon juice made with artificial flavor, and dishwashing liquid made with real lemons? ___________________________________ Why is the man who invests all your money called a broker? ___________________________________ Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush hour? ___________________________________ Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food? ___________________________________ Why didn't Noah swat those two mosquitoes? ___________________________________ Why do they sterilize the needle for lethal injections? ___________________________________ You know that indestructible black box that is used on airplanes? Why don't they make the whole plane out of that stuff? ___________________________________ Why don't sheep shrink when it rains? ___________________________________ Why are they called apartments when they are all stuck together? ___________________________________ I like this one!!! If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? ___________________________________ If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the terminal? ___________________________________ Now that you've smiled at least once, it's your turn to spread the stupidity and send this to someone you want to bring a smile to (maybe even a chuckle).....in other words, send it to everyone. We all need to smile every once in a while.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 18, 2011 20:44:55 GMT -5
Helen, I can not begin to tell you what your videos mean to my wife and I ,to say they are spectacular,so filled with information and just plain great to listen to and view,just doesn't seem like much,when you compare it to the work you have done on them. Keep up the great job! Mark Neumann
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 18, 2011 20:47:28 GMT -5
Helen, I see nobody is telling you to "BACK OFF' over here. lol Don Tramper
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 18, 2011 20:51:25 GMT -5
Helen, I can only imagine how many people it takes to get one of your video's up,I did one a couple years ago and it was only 4 min. long and took me a good 3 weeks. Thanks for all the time you have given to keeping us informed.Ray Schroeder
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 18, 2011 23:28:06 GMT -5
Helen, Is that Les, Kdogg or is he just a nut like him? AL-Note -Your not the first to ask-Les is not Kdogg but he was cut from the same cloth and they are good friends,as to if Les is nuts-Well it is begging to look that way.that whole gang is sorta strange, maybe they are all sharing -one brain-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 18, 2011 23:32:47 GMT -5
Helen, I heard the Media won't even take any more Busch news from the Kings. Is that true? Jim- Note- I'm not even going to go there!
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 19, 2011 0:15:10 GMT -5
Cliff Note Version-However I think the killer stopped because he finish his mission...he wanted to kill two boys & two Girls...under the self delusional pretext -that he was saving them from a meaningless and painful existence -{like his turned out to be}.. Also -He wanted to inflict pain and humiliation on the rich and privilege upper class and in doing so achieve personal significance on the level of his Ancestors...as for his family sending him overseas for a mental condition...I really have doubts about that as John supported himself from the age of 11...{His father told me}...and I do know from my investigation and from John himself...that his Dad although he was wealthy...he didn't share that with his family....and about Johns mental condition-all I can tell you about this..is that I did see him go into a Manic phase -with spinning eyes-hyper-active mannerisms...gorge on bags of bananas and appear unaware of his surroundings...after discussing the OCCK or while in a car with me...when it started to snow....also when his oldest sister called my daughter... to tell her what a bad girl I was-she mention they had two people in there family who had mental Illness...but she didn't say who...and my daughter never ask...but I do know -The mother was crazy...as everyone I talked to from the family...has made that statement..I should also mention that John did spend some time overseas..but the dates can not be confirmed-How ever -I can confirm that he was indeed in Oakland County on the dates of the abductions and during the children captivity...and the drop offs
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 19, 2011 15:43:33 GMT -5
Helen, I think it is Hysterical how that bunch of posters over there,can not even make a post with out using your name. How do you stand it? Carl-note-*Look your dealing with a bunch of morons ...who think they are really clever, once you see through them, they don't even matter. these cases have become an irresistible lure for many people who have no jobs and no life and no knowledge - so hiding behind a screen name they peddle new theories and a list of suspects no writer of fiction could ever conceive...and some how that gives them a feeling of power...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 19, 2011 16:13:34 GMT -5
Very funny Scott, I haven't even been to that site in 10 day and chances are I won't be going there-I can just take so much fake stuff from the same posters -who post under different screen names-3 or 4 times an hour-thinking no one has notice-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 19, 2011 18:46:34 GMT -5
Look at this way, Helen. Perhaps we should judge it this way. If he gets a good grade on his paper with Chris Busch being the OCCK, then maybe that is all the proof we need. I think his grade on the paper should override any decisions the grand jurys make. Who cares what the composite sketch and witness description details. Since when has that ever influence a case anyway? Bob Harrison
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 19, 2011 19:07:13 GMT -5
Bob, Do you realy think there is or will be any term paper? I doubth it ,that is a very deceptive group of posters over there.Remember this from the other day,when Les posted? "I read the Wikipedia description of the Oakland County Child Killer tonight. They wrote a retraction on calling Theodore Lamborgine a top suspect. They also have removed their statement calling Christopher Busch the main suspect. There are signs that things are shifting again. I am not suggesting that one of our other Topixs suspects is picking up attention, just suggesting that the task force has opened the investigation to other possibilities. " Not one bit of truth to it.The same info there always was is on that site. Also who could forget Lillys photos of John McKinney? They never showed up any where and wasn't she going to at least send them to that Garfield or what ever name he was posting under that week? Every time they post anything ,they have nothing to back it up,ever! Francis Connaughton
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 19, 2011 19:18:25 GMT -5
Francis.I have to agree with you,I don't think any poster over there has ever been able to back up their Big Mouth! I also agree with Helen,that the validation of each other is down right sickening, I also can here the sucking up and the question remains WHY? What have they contributed? Nothing but wrong information and turmoil. If there was a Internet Zapper available,I would get one to use on the posters at that site. They are disgusting at best! Lorraine Ogden
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 19, 2011 19:36:04 GMT -5
Well I'm glad to see your taking posts about those idiots and I sure want to ad something.When that poster a while back told you to Back Off from that polygrapher, when all you wanted was the truth, I almost posted what I know over at Topix. What I know is that there is not a cop other than Cory Williams, who is involved with these cases that believes one thing that guy has to say,just because he made a statement under oath ,does not mean it is true!If anyone has follow this at all,they certainly would see that maybe he does believe what he testified to, but the facts show something entirely different. I still have a real problem with how the King family got tied up in this, Tall Tale. This does not sound like The Mr. King I knew. DJ Note-I withheld your full name as you never mention if you wanted it posted.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Sept 19, 2011 21:51:14 GMT -5
No time to post any more feedback tonight-working on some thing Big.
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