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[Helen Dagner]

Hi Helen, I see the gang over at the Toxic Dumping Ground, is still trying to put old wine in new bottles and they still can't sell their sh-t Sgt.

[Helen Dagner]

murdercityshakedown.com/aboutthebook

[Helen Dagner]

Hi Helen,

(You may want to save this posting until after the "Murder City" book comes out. I may be wrong in I disagreeumptions, though I don't think so.)

I came across this description of an ebook called "Hollywood Blood," written by J. Reuben Appelman:

"A renegade Hollywood director with a past, now full of contempt for the movie industry and flirting with madness while working on a film about child abductions, finds himself the victim of a series of crimes paralleling his research, beginning with his own captivity into the sex-sodden back rooms of New York City. With a sadistic Cyndi Lauper look-alike pimping him out, a rival filmmaker plotting his death from Los Angeles, a Scientologist police detective greased to even a score, and a revenge-addled murder spree seemingly related, what at first glance looks to be the dirtiest of paybacks proves to get dirtier than even Hollywood can handle."

So I guess it's no surprise that he's turning the OCCK into a personal journey, i.e., "doing battle with his own personal dark side," etc. Let's just hope he can refrain from indulging in his apparent penchant for sophomoric tawdriness and pseudo-Ellroy/Palahniuk prose stylings. It seems that he will have to go the Fox Island route in order to elicit the grand scope demanded by his grandiose temperament....But we'll see.

P.S. I think the Fox Island situation certainly demands scrutiny, but I don't think that is has any direct bearing on the OCCK. And neither subject ought to be grounds for hard-boiled sensationalizing and/or self-mythologizing. XXXXXX

[Helen Dagner]

Helen, what is the deal on the information that Patrick T. Coffey was suppose to have given to the court under oath about another polyographer saying that Chris Busch indicated to him that he was involved in the Oakland County Child Killings,would this be considered evidences ? Xxxxx Note-Well that part is true that Patrick did give testimony about Chris Bush-However Since there is no way of telling If that testimony is true -It would be consider at best Hearsay-and depending on the Prosecutor- it could or could not be used-and I'm told it will not be use, for one thing there is nothing to use it with - I will try to get an update on this-things are changing everyday -as the case gets worked-and more people are Interviewed-my personal opinion is that it will have no value-But then if any evidences comes up that will tie Busch to these murders-then it could be use-but so far there is nothing-

[Helen Dagner]

Well Helen are you going to post a story about Wayne County Prosecutor Kim Worthy?Jim -Note-Yes, I am

[Helen Dagner]

Helen, why do you always have to shatter are dreams? I was thinking any day now we would have and answer from the Grand Juries about who the real Occk was. Scott-Note -Well If this goes on for a while-I have prepared you in advance,so you will be able to handle it-Just knowing that the cases will be in Great shape for the next generation,should bring you some peace -

[Helen Dagner]

Boy Helen, you are really at peace about these investigations into the Occk. I read where you also said that your team has made the videos for the next generation. Hope you don't mind, but I really enjoyed them too! I don't think anyone has ever put so much time in keeping the memory of these children a live,and I thank you for it. Jon

[Helen Dagner]

Helen, I now know what you mean about Topix, I'm sure that the regulars over there ,go there to post because they can get away with everything,and they are the kind of people who really need too,as no one else would ever let them post on their site. I found a lot of Topix listings and none of them are good in fact it sounds like just the place for low life people and bottom feeders, I would never join a site like that because everyone would know you where just like all the other people there. www.complaintsboard.com/bycompany/topix-a255988.html Tess

[Helen Dagner]

I see what you mean Tess,I think the best thing to do is file any complaints that anyone has against Topix, with your State Attorney Generals office-as that way you will at least get the real name of the person who is harassing you-http://richmondregister.com/localnews/x664157552/Agreement-with-AG-alters-Topix-policies I was just told a couple of days ago that even though 37 State AG's offices are going to file yet another suit against then-If you take your complaint to Topix-they will just ignor it and that is why all the State AG'S offices are so over run with these complaints-Topix only has 27 people working for them-so you know that none of the complaints are follow up on by Topix them self--and like I said the first thing the AG's office does is file a warrant to get the real persons name and IP address Ect,-and they are bringing Internet Harassers and Internet stalkers to justice-and quite quickly-and what is extra nice is they get long jail terms-

[Helen Dagner]

Helen,in the post above about the new book-I saw this (At least four children were kidnapped, held in captivity from four to nineteen days, and murdered by asphyxiation. Someone should tell him that Jill was shot. Dean-Note- go back up to that post and click on the Donor list and read it-I'm sure some one off that list would have caught that mistake-

[Helen Dagner]

Helen, Is Ted Lamborgine still a suspect,is he still being Investigated. Mark -Note Yes, he is.

[Helen Dagner]

Kevin, the warrants that I went over all said this Information was wrong-*The warrant says Jane Louise Allen, 13 at the time, disappeared in August 1976 after leaving her boyfriend's Pontiac house intending to hitchhike back to Royal Oak. Her body was found four days later in the Greater Miami River in Ohio.


Her hands were tied behind her back with torn pieces of a T-shirt in a method identical to the way Norberg occasionally bound his wife, Sharon Norberg, the warrant says.


"The T-shirt was torn into strips of cloth tied together to form a rope with knots tied every few inches along its length," states the warrant. "Sharon Norberg also said that David Norberg had, on occasion, bound her hands behind her back using a rope with knots tied every few inches."

[Helen Dagner]

The Oakland County Child Killer was an unidentified serial killer responsible for the murders of four or more children in Oakland County, Michigan, United States in 1976 and 1977. The killer was also nicknamed "The Babysitter", as all four victims had been recently bathed.
Case background
During a 13-month period, four children were abducted and murdered with their bodies left in various locations within the county. The children were each held from four to 19 days before being killed. Their deaths triggered a murder investigation which at the time was the largest in U.S. history. The murders are still unsolved.
Fear and near- mass hysteria swept southeastern Michigan, as young people were inundated with information on " stranger danger", and parents clogged streets around schools dropping off and picking up their children. The few who did walk walked in groups and under the watchful eyes of parents in "safe houses", where children could go if they felt uncomfortable. Children even avoided using a playground directly behind the Birmingham police station. One incident in Livonia involved a tow-truck driver who assaulted a man he had seen asking two boys on the street for directions. He turned out to be an Ohio tire salesman who had gotten lost with no knowledge of the slayings. The Detroit News offered a $100,000 reward for the killer's apprehension.
Victims
Confirmed

* Mark Stebbins, 12, of Ferndale, was last seen leaving an American Legion Hall on Sunday afternoon, February 15, 1976. He had told his mother he was going home to watch a movie on television. He never got there. His body was found just before noon on February 19, neatly laid out in a snowbank in the parking lot of an office building at Ten Mile Road and Greenfield in Southfield (some reports claim Oak Park; Greenfield is the boundary between the two cities). He had been strangled and sexually assaulted with an object. Rope marks were seen on his wrists. He was fully clothed in the outfit he was wearing when last seen alive.
* Jill Robinson, 12, of Royal Oak, packed a backpack and ran away from her home on Wednesday, December 22, 1976, following an argument with her mother over dinner preparations. The day after her disappearance, her bicycle was found behind a hobby store on Main Street in that city. Her body was found on the morning of December 26, along the side of Interstate 75 near Big Beaver Road in Troy. She was killed by a single shotgun blast to the face. She was fully clothed and still wearing her backpack. The body was placed within sight of the Troy police station, once again, laid out neatly in the snow.
* Kristine Mihelich, 10, was last seen Sunday, January 2, 1977 at 3:00 p.m. at a 7-Eleven store on Twelve Mile Road at Oakshire in Berkley, purchasing a magazine. A mail carrier spotted her fully clothed body 19 days later on the side of a rural road in Franklin Village. She had been smothered. The body was laid within view of nearby homes, eyes closed and arms folded across the chest, once again in the snow.
* Timothy King, 11, borrowed 30 cents from his older sister and left his home in Birmingham, skateboard in hand, to buy candy at a drugstore on nearby Maple Road on Wednesday, March 16, 1977, at about 8:30 p.m. He left the store by the rear entrance, which opened to a parking lot shared with a supermarket, and vanished. An intensive search was executed that covered the entire Detroit metropolitan area, and there was widespread media coverage, already heavy with coverage of the previous three slayings. In an emotional television appeal, Timothy's father, Barry, begged the abductor to release his son unharmed. In a letter printed in the Detroit News, Miriam King wrote that she hoped Timothy could come home soon so she could serve him his favorite meal, Kentucky Fried Chicken. In the late evening hours of March 22, 1977, two teenagers in a car spotted his body in a shallow ditch alongside Gill Road, about 300 feet south of Eight Mile Road in Livonia, just across the county line in Wayne County. His prized skateboard was placed next to his body. His clothing had been neatly pressed and washed. He had been suffocated and sexually assaulted with an object. The postmortem showed that Timothy had eaten fried chicken before he was slain.

Suspected
There were other abductions and murders around the Oakland County area within the same period. These are not specifically tied to the four victims above due to variations in the cases.

* The 1972 killing of teenager Donna Serra in Ray Township.
* Cynthia Cadieux, 16, was abducted and bludgeoned to death on the evening of January 15, 1976. Missing from Roseville, she was discovered nude and battered in Bloomfield Township in the early morning hours of January 16.
* Sheila Srock was raped and shot dead while babysitting in a home on Villa Street in Birmingham on January 20, 1976. Her assailant had burglarized several homes in the neighborhood earlier in the evening. A neighbor had watched the entire attack in horror from his roof, where he was shoveling snow.
* Jane Allen, 14, was murdered by carbon monoxide poisoning after accepting a ride while hitchhiking in Royal Oak on August 7, 1976. She was found floating in a river in Miamisburg, Ohio, on August 11.
* Kimberly King (no relation to Timothy King) disappeared from Warren on September 16, 1976 after leaving a friend's house to use a payphone across the street. Her remains have never been recovered. Investigators believe David Norberg, who lived two blocks from Kimberly's home at the time of her abduction, may have been involved in her apparent abduction if not the murders.

Investigation
After the discovery of Kristine Mihelich's body, authorities quickly realized they were dealing with three cases and evidence that were closely similar. Reports were released publicly of the possibility a serial killer was operating in the Oakland County area. The Michigan State Police led a group of law-enforcement officials from 13 communities in the formation of a task force, devoted solely to the investigation.
Soon after Timothy King was abducted, a composite drawing of the suspected kidnapper and his vehicle was released. A woman claimed she had seen a boy with a skateboard talking to a man in a parking lot of the drugstore that Timothy had told his parents he was going to ride his skateboard to. The vehicle was reportedly a blue AMC Gremlin with a white side stripe. Authorities would eventually question every Gremlin owner in Oakland County.
Investigators put together a profile of the killer based on witnesses' descriptions of the man seen talking to Timothy King the night he disappeared—a white male with a dark complexion, 25 to 35 years old with shaggy hair and sideburns. Authorities believed that the killer had a job that gave him freedom of movement and may have appeared to be someone that a child might trust, such as a police officer, clergyman or a doctor. He was also believed to be familiar with the area and had the ability to keep children for long periods of time without rousing neighbors' suspicions.
Detroit psychiatrist Dr. Bruce Danto, who worked with the task force, received a letter several weeks after Timothy King's body was found from a man named "Allen", who claimed that he was the killer's roommate and even helped look after the victims. Allen said his roommate had been traumatized by killing children in the Vietnam War and was taking revenge out on more affluent citizens. Soon after, Danto got a phone call from Allen, who offered to provide photographic evidence in exchange for immunity from prosecution. Under police surveillance, the psychiatrist arranged to meet Allen at a gay bar near Detroit's exclusive Palmer Woods neighborhood. Allen did not show, and was never heard from again.
The task force checked out more than 18,000 tips, but was unable to make much headway in the investigation. The task force disbanded in December 1978. The killer never struck again.
Theodore Lamborgine
Police in Parma Heights, Ohio arrested Ted Lamborgine, a retired auto worker believed to have been involved in a child porn ring in the 1970s.
On March 27, 2007, investigators told Detroit television station WXYZ that Lamborgine was considered the top suspect in this case. Lamborgine pleaded guilty to 15 sex-related counts involving young boys rather than accept a plea bargain that would have required him to take a polygraph test on the Oakland County child killings. Lamborgine also rejected an offer of a reduced sentence in exchange for a polygraph on the case.
In October 2007, the family of Mark Stebbins filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Lamborgine seeking $25,000. The lawsuit alleges Lamborgine, who lived in Metro Detroit in the late 1970s, abducted Mark and held him captive in a Royal Oak house for four days in February 1976 before smothering him to death during a sex assault.
Lamborgine has never been formally linked nor charged in the death of Mark Stebbins, the first of four children who were abducted and slain between February 1976 and March 1977. Attorney David A. Binkley seeks compensation, including funeral costs, for Stebbins' brother, Michael, but stressed money is secondary.
Sources

* Wolf in Sheep's Clothing: The Search for a Child Killer . McIntyre, Tommy. ISBN#08143-1989-0
* Unexplained Michigan Mysteries . Barfknecht, Gary. ISBN#09237-5605-1

References
External links

* Detectives Revive Infamous Case
* Detroit News article
* Cold Serial
* 1976-77 Oakland County Child Slayings
* Video about the arrest

[Helen Dagner]

I didn't permanently remove this story-(Patrick T. Coffey Censured by American Polygraph Association)-I just put it aside until the Information I'm waiting for comes in-

[Helen Dagner]

I'm not going to run any of your email post -on this guy and his book as I really do not know what is going on with him-(Murder City Shakedown is a memoir of J.Reuben Appelman's cold case investigation into the serial murders of four children in the neighborhoods surrounding his childhood home.) I will agree though with many who wrote about the vasts number of Documents that he claims to have read on the Oakland County Child Murders cases has been exaggerated -and many of the people he would like you to believe he interview-well it must of been very secret as they don't even know about it- But, lets wait and see what he comes up with-Ok?