Some Mail In About Les Being Back At Topix -saying he is and eye witness to the Occk Murders- and readers wanting to know what I thought of that-Here is a 2005 post,Les was a member of this group,so I know all his BS-this is the guy who taught him how to Lie about the Occk cases...and Les learned it very well-- The links will not work as they are to old and because this group was kicked off of all the service net works and their trash deleted--So if your wondering if Les is telling the truth about anything-I don't think so.......**Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups.
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Mail-Id: 1116520183-8291
Yahoo! ID: Kdogg AKA KEVIN RUNDEL-Serialchic AKA ELIZABETH SINOR
Subject: Harassment/Threats
What Group are you reporting?
groups.yahoo.com/group/occk/Type your feedback here:
This is going to be sort of long-Sorry about that-It has
been brought to my attention,that since I quit this Yahoo
OCCK group,which the owner had really set up for me,that
very much bashing,and very much Slander has been posted by
this Kevin Rundel & Terri Keeler and others..and allowed to go on,by the
owner..now I am told that some was recently deleted..or
moved from the public eye,however still being circulated,by
this group apon request--This Kevin Rundel,who I don't know
at all has been stalking me on the Web,for a very long
time,he also,post on another site owned by the same person
who owns this group,where she had also set up a site about
the Oakland County Child Killer,after I requested,would she
do so...as she realy does great work,how ever after the
many post that she had allowed from this new comer,Kevin
Rundel,and some other shady things she did,I also left that
site...she begged me to come back in an email...but I
explained to her,I had had it...well then the really dirty
post started to appear by this Kevin Rundel..and then he was
allowed to post under many differant names...although many
of those post...well really a very lot of them...have been
removed..These people have done everything they could to -
Instigate-Incite-Agitate-hinder-hamper-Obstruct-Impeede-
derail-misdirect-divert-deflect-side track and lie about
me..under the cover of a yahoo group...and I just know you
would not allow that,as it is just not right..Just this
past week AMW had to shut them down and Delete the things they
were posting there
forums.prospero.com/n/main.asp?qu=Helen+Dagner&find=Search&webtag=foxamw&ctx=search&cl=6929
34&af=31&o=relevance&be=0 as they were so slanderous...My
Daughter Is the Det.Sgt.with the Emmet County Mi. Sheriffs
Dept & her Husband A Police Officer at Harbor Springs
Mi,work alot with Inter-Net cases,and they have never seen
anything like this...I was married to a cop for 20
years,who killed him self...and this group of people,posted
all over the web,that maybe that wasn't how he
died..insinuating -I killed him...they also posted..and I
know this is in the OCCK yahoo group files,that I was in
Prison for 10years...OTIS had made and error on this on
their web site..my daughter informed this Kevin Rundel and
others of this group that this was wrong...but they
continued to post it all over the web...now there latest
thing is that they work for the police and have talked to
the Police agency were my husband worked,and they gave them
all kinds of Info...which is not true..This Kevin never
even called them,there investigation this week prove that--
I am still waiting for the results of the Michigan State
Police Internal Affairs Dept...as Kevin and one Det. Sgt
may have set this all up...but in any event..this has to
all stop!I have been writing about my story on the time I spent
with the OCCK,for 15 years now...and have had no problems
with any people on the web...until.I quit the Occk
group...then it started with in days???This is the owner of
that groops other site,Where they referr to me as Helen the
wack Job...and you should have seen the stuff that has been
removed from public view..you would never belive it
forums.prospero.com/n/main.asp?qu=Helen+Dagner&find=Search&webtag=foxamw&ctx=search&cl=6929
34&af=31&o=relevance&be=0 This is the
Storyhttp://www.geocities.com/jtoddmatthews/Oakland_murders.
html? This is my site
forum.americanindiantribe.com/viewforum.php?f=17You will see that I am getting just like them,I'm just
trying to stop their lies.I type with only one finger,so it
is tired...and I'm sure by now..LOL...you have read all
you can stand about this matter.Please do what you can to
help.My Best Regards,Helen DagnerAKA-Serialkillerfacts03@
Yahoo.com
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Date Originated: Thursday May 19, 2005 - 09:29:43
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