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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 0:33:44 GMT -5
Really?!? Wow. You should have introduced yourself (haha). I wonder if the "heat" is on or her job took them back to Florida.. Tess
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 0:35:27 GMT -5
Helen, Here are a couple of resent pictures off of Facebook. Cal
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 0:36:42 GMT -5
Helen, Nope. No response from Dietz. Very disappointing. Mel
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 0:39:03 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 7:49:29 GMT -5
Major marijuana growing operation busted in Detroit-video under God Made Cops Thread-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 23:21:56 GMT -5
Helen, I don't think there is anything you couldn't do, the videos are just so great. God Bless You! Tess
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 23:29:51 GMT -5
Helen, I like the job your doing, to keep us all informed on the Occk, and the video's and graphic is yet another Bonus we get by coming to your site. Ron
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 23:53:27 GMT -5
In one of your emails you had asked something about John knowing Mr. King...Well I believe he was absolutely fixated on Mr. king...as he was always mentioning him...and the one night I lied to him and said I was meeting Mr King & his daughter at the Big Boy in Alpena ...and he was welcome to join us...was the first night John never showed up for coffee with me...and wouldn't you know it was the night the Birmingham Police were in the restaurant waiting to observe him.....the next day I asked him why he didn't show up...and as he walked across the room he said...he would have recognized me! it was a Freudian slip...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 23:54:51 GMT -5
When John was in Alpena I found out he was a window peeker so when I had coffee with my Lt. friend -I said what do you think of that-does it confirm serial killer?...He said well Helen not all Window Peekers are serial killers-however all Serial killers have window peek...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 23:56:25 GMT -5
When John first started mentioning The Oakland County Child Killer cases to me up in Alpena-He always talked in the 3rd person-So when I asked him my first questions-I said-well who do you think killed these kids? He said a Cult...I just about lost it-I was laughing so hard-I guess because he wanted to talk about Cults-to me a small town girl? Give me a break!...So I asked the next question. Well how did they get the kids in the car? He said a simple snatch & grab...I told him I didn't know what he ment-so he showed me....I can remember saying to him-this story is going to have to get better...Pu-lease a simple snatch and grab? John you have got to be kidding me,in broad daylight? He explained to me-it goes so fast...no one catches it-it is a lot like a purse snatching-only tool require strong wrist...well he sort of got my attention then-as John had really big wrists-just like my Dentist-but I said you would think the Oakland County Child Killer would be a lot more creative..John mumble something...but I didn't catch it....this time....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 23:58:20 GMT -5
Did The Occk??-While enduring childhood punishment and unfair discipline from his parents create an execute -the perfect plan-for his warped sense of justice? Was it fueled by the cruel mental abuse suffered at the hands of his extended family? His dedication to the mission Of showing them-he could do something and do it right-did it lead to the murders of four children?Did the meticulous attention to detail-allow him to not leave any forensic evidence at four abduction and drop off sites and keep his Identity-in the shadows for 34+ years? Has he committed the perfect Crimes? Now think about his motive-doesn't sound like a sexual predator to me...does it to you?
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 25, 2011 23:59:55 GMT -5
It was a four drawing collection of gruesomely illustration-{ as they look back}-it amounted to a voyeuristic autobiography, a way to relive his crimes without actually confessing. I asked how they knew it was Johns bedroom they were in-and they said they had been to the home several times with the intent of buying it ..but they could never have access to the room..as it was always locked..and they asked or told the mother -we need to see that room or we won't be back with and offer -she said...I can not open it as I am afraid of my son John ...as he has told me NEVER GO IN THAT ROOM....!!! Wanting to get the house sold she eventually got permission to go in the room....The reason i remember the drawings so well is all that was in the room was and old matress on the floor and the drawings tape to the wall...she said I will not describe them to the public as they give me nightmares just talking about them....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 26, 2011 0:08:06 GMT -5
.But to answer some -John did not play me-John did not work under cover with me at anytime-John's only words to me about Busch....were that he had a friend who had commited suicide 5 years ...but on the same date that my police officer husband killed himself....I never even conected it too Busch...untill a Detective I was working with caught it by the date--as far as Busch being involved in the Oakland County Child Murders...He wasn't!!!.....Now I really must state....John and my story ...stands as I have always written it.....I would not change a word of it.....I guess what is happening here on this forum-Is the same old -same old.... most of the posters have done no real investigation...oh yes you looked up a few old newspaper articals...copy a few lines-added to it your theory-Then to say well you never read about John in any Newspapers...is laughable---of course you haven't....He is their number one suspect...and they -Law Enforcement!!!....and they are protecting that Info....In the event...They ever get this to court....One other thing-The autor of the poste that say the ALLEN letter came from a now dead guy who was a teen at the thime...is just plain full of S-Dr. Danto wrote that letter him self!.....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 26, 2011 23:19:27 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 27, 2011 0:42:22 GMT -5
Helen, I see you ran Ted's Photo,Is he still a Suspect? Dean-Note-He sure Is.
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