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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 26, 2011 17:12:00 GMT -5
FOIA Report BLK 01597-and Blk 01598--Studt said -I spoke with Capt.Watson in the Sheriff's Department on Friday,February 28,1992. He said that he had gone back and checked several of the statements John apparently had made to Helen.and he was convinced to discount John as a suspect for the following reasons-When Stebbens was found, he did have boots on.This is in contradiction to Johns statement that boots were burned-Tim King had on white socks when he was found. this is not consistent with one of Johns statements-Also Christine Mahalik had on white underpants,not prints,which is again not consistent with Johns statements.NOTE FROM HELEN-NOT ONLY DID JOHN NOT MAKE THOSE STATEMENTS TO ME-I NEVER PUT THAT IN A REPORT TO THE OCSD--My long time readers-will recognize that those are statements that Detroit Dan has made on the Internet at one time or another-but since this report is made in 1992 and Dan didn't go on the Internet until 2004-who knows where they came from-I just know they never came from me---What John told me was Mark had black rubber booths ON-but NO shoes in them-White was not the color of socks that John told me Tim was wearing-John did not mention any underpants on the girls other than to say one had a day of the week on-He never told me which of the girls did--also if this report had come from me-Kris' name would have been spelled right--I know that these detail may to some seem not Important-but it is...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 26, 2011 19:07:27 GMT -5
We have documents for this thread-however we are so overwhelmed-will just get them up when we can-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 27, 2011 12:20:05 GMT -5
I have documents for everything that will be posted on this site-but it is a hassle to get them already when I'm ready to post-Just want you to know I can back this all up-This is from my interviews with Don-and contains things I never said=BLK01585-She said that John told her that the killer was not a pedophile,rather a homosexual.she asked how he knew that and John replied,he just did-(This is not true) * She also said that one time she was in Johns house and saw that he had 3 vibrators standing up on a shelf area next to his bathroom.She made a comment about these being there in a joking manner and after that John removed the vibrators and she never saw them again. (This is not true) What I said after Don asked me if I ever saw any vibrators-was a very simple answer-John didn't have any selves that I saw in his bathroom-but he had a 3 level- fruit hanger that hung from the ceiling that the top layer was filled with about 50 white toothbrush holders-that were designed to look like vibrators.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 28, 2011 3:41:27 GMT -5
In one of their discussions about this case John indicated to her that " wouldn't it be strange if the killer had taken Polaroid pictures of the children,and if they could be found somewhere" She also said that one of her conversations with John involved the washing of the bodies and that John told her that the killer did that because he felt bad and that would wash away the bad-( all true to this point) She said that one time when John was young,as a disciplinary measure, he was forced to clean toilets and that had a psychological effect on him-I didn't say this-but I read in the Mother and Sister Interview that they did-but they gave me the credit -shabby police work---then they add a note saying -that at one point John got very heated about the subject,told her that in 15 yrs no one has caught him and she wouldn't either--(Not True)
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 1, 2011 11:04:35 GMT -5
Re-Post-This person was fully investigated by very competent investigators/That is a BIG FAT LIE!
The next day when Johns apartment was going to be search by the Birmingham PD...I gave it little thought...In fact I went about my daily routine-which started each day with coffee at the Big Boy with the local Det. Lt....I had some info for him on this day about a rash of arson he was having a problem getting a lead on....we met at 7:23 am each day....by 7:25 he had already told me he had and appointment with my down state buddies {BPD}...I never even commented...as Don Studt had told me the night before that he had and appointment with my buddy the Lt.{who was too busy the day before to see him} I can still remember laughing to my self -thinking{they are all acting like a bunch of little boys!}....8:55am the Lt. leaves for his office...I normally would go pick John up to go for coffee or to the Library...but then I really didn't know what time he was getting his visit from the BPD....so decided I would pick Beth up instead....as we have to go over our plan for the drug bust we were doing for the MSP later that day...so after I caught up with Beth...back to my "office" at the Big Boy....as we approached the parking lot...I looked across the street in front of the Credit Union....and there was John pacing back and forth...carrying a big grocery bag...naturally I was surprised....as I thought he would still be having the search of his apartment?? So I pulled back out on the street and drove up to him...and he didn't even see me-he was in some type of trance-he looked like a crazy man...his eyes were spinning...he was frantically jamming bananas in his mouth and mumbling something under his breath...I'm sure this was brought on by an intense psychological trauma....{the search may have been what triggered Johns Manic episode}...I tried to talk to John...but he did not even recognize me...or it just didn't register with him because he was living in some other reality at that moment....It scared the hell out of Beth. He was creeping me out too...I decided right then and there...I better let him snap out of it...I would see him later that night...to see how the search went....But I knew I wasn't going to go to his apartment...I would have to run into him at Big Boy later that night...after all I had a good excuse...I needed to get my library book back {The Wolf In Sheep's Clothing}....that I let him read the day before....as I wanted to read it myself.....{Next -What they found with the search}.....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Aug 1, 2011 20:59:49 GMT -5
No Wonder John Said I Was Making Stuff Up-He Never Said Any Of The Stuff In Those Police Reports
I have documents for everything that will be posted on this site-but it is a hassle to get them already when I'm ready to post-Just want you to know I can back this all up-This is from my interviews with Don-and contains things I never said=BLK01585-She said that John told her that the killer was not a pedophile,rather a homosexual.she asked how he knew that and John replied,he just did-(This is not true) * She also said that one time she was in Johns house and saw that he had 3 vibrators standing up on a shelf area next to his bathroom.She made a comment about these being there in a joking manner and after that John removed the vibrators and she never saw them again. (This is not true) What I said after Don asked me if I ever saw any vibrators-was a very simple answer-John didn't have any selves that I saw in his bathroom-but he had a 3 level- fruit hanger that hung from the ceiling that the top layer was filled with about 50 white toothbrush holders-that were designed to look like vibrators.
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