~OCCK~ Its misleading to say boys were raped

[Helen Dagner]

Helen, These articlse are definitely slanted towards Busch and the pedophiles being the killers but it fails to ask and answer some important questions such as, – Why were two girls abducted? These two (Busch and Green) were no “rocket scientists” and were not out to fool law enforcement. Too much to lose and increasing the risk to be caught. They were also not killers although Greene supposedly tried to kill a kid years earlier in California. He was in jail at the time Tim was abducted and murdered. Wasn’t Busch up in Alma during some of the abductions, too? Interesting comment from Busch on how he liked the Ferndale Royal Oak area for his activity. Doc

[Helen Dagner]

Helen, Do I think it is a sexually motivated case? No. I'm on the belief that perhaps it was made to look that way and that is something I would not put pass John. He is smart, Busch-not so much.Jack

[Helen Dagner]

From the transcript of comments "made by Dr. Werner Spitz, Chief Medical Examiner for the Wayne County Medical Examiner's Office. This is during the consultation he had with several of the medical examiners as they examined the body of Timothy King"---The anal canal was grossly dilated and abrasions of the lining of the anal canal were present indicating sexual abuse. No sperm or evidence of semen were present, nor were sperm or semen found in the swabs from the oral cavity LE-.Another thing about the sodomy thing, is there a way for you to determine whether in fact that it would have been a thingy in contrast to a foreign object, a broom handle, if you want to call it that?

It would depend on whether there was sperm or not in there.

My point is, we are trying to pin it down to male or female. We don't know if, for instance , on the last girl that was found, if it is a male, that kind of helps us along. Could have been a foreign object is what we are trying to determine.

I couldn't tell you that one way or the other unless I find sperm in which case ...*Note-"No sperm was found and it was determined that a foreign object was inserted post mortem"-I have much more on this from many different sources.

[Helen Dagner]

In all the Police reports-each officer investigated this as having been a Vibrator -well in these two cases-a toothbrush holder shaped like a Vibrator~Note-Do you really think a pervert -would have just used a vibrator-I will be posting this info-as soon as I find where I put it-

[Helen Dagner]

~OCCK~ Its misleading to say boys were raped as readers will think its a homosexual behind the killings. Should have said "raped with an object" (this is much different)