Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 26, 2011 17:47:43 GMT -5
-2009-*I spoke with my brother last night and he said his impression is that the article will be a total hack on the MSP. That basically the thing is based on the MSP stonewalling us. That her editors have made her remove a bunch of stuff for the time-being because of legal liabilities and the inability to substantiate stuff b/c no one in LE will comment on it. This will then be the "first shot across the bow." It will open the floodgates and hopefully put LE in a spot where they have to comment and where other people start coming out of the woodwork to comment.
I helped my brother construct a gigantic timeline/flow chart from 1976 to 1992. From 1992-on, I typed up notes about you contacting the cops, the "investigation" of John, etc., up until the present day. It has some gaps, but under the circumstances it gets the job done.
The flow chart starts at the top with the Busch family and the Hastings family. My brother has included information about a douche bag who ran with Busch back in the day--Gregory Green. He was in jail when Tim was abducted, but may have been involved with Busch in some of the other killings. Hastings' deal runs parallel to the Busch deal and demonstrates the physical proximity, similarities between the two men (basically everything except pedophelia and Busch's access to huge quantities of $$). I believe the paper wants to photograph the flow chart, just to show the sheer size of it (not the contents, which would not be legible in a photo). Rest assured that Hastings receives top billing and occupies the right-hand side of the chart.
My brother says the reporter totally gets the Hastings thing; that they shut you down; that the cops have never REALLY investigated him or his family. Depending on what Gray says or doesn't say, she may or may not be able to run anything about Hastings in this first article. She has a long-retired detective who provided comment on Busch, but of course no one will comment yet on Hastings. If she calls you, I'd say there is a greater chance Hastings will get some mention in this intial article; if not, that will be in round 2. As my brother said, her editors have reigned in her article a lot at this stage. I know she will continue to work on this and that as the rats start running from the sinking ship, Hastings' name and the bullnuts you have gone through over the past almost 2-decades will be made more public. They need something from LE to cover their ass at this point. I believe that is why the article is going to be written in terms of the Kings versus the MSP.
My Dad is convinced Chris Busch killed Tim. He agrees with me and my brothers that Hastings is either involved, has knowledge or had deep suspicions that should have been voiced to LE at the time, and that he should have been investigated much more carefully both in 1977 and 1992. If this entire thing was covered up in order for the MSP to "save face," of course they would have had no interest in truly investigating Hastings, who was dangerously close to Busch. The MSP has yet to inform my Dad on the status of Hastings' polygraph. We are totally in the dark again and I expect that will worsen after Thursday.
Let the games begin. It is our opening punch; it's the best we can do. Exposing the MSP for what they are is the first step. No one in LE can back us up right now, but I am quite sure that will change after this thing goes out on Thursday. Be prepared for Busch to get some heavy press (she has a lot of criminal background on him it sounds like). John is not in the clear, not by a long shot. The goal right now is to turn the MSP upside down and get the public to open their eyes. Our initial goal is a "f--k you" to the MSP and it sounds like that will be accomplished. We won't see the article before it goes out, of course, but I have faith in my brother's take on the reporter.
Our best hope is that the MSP is unable to move on any of this before Thursday. The reporter has not yet called Gray or Charles Busch. She will no doubt leave this until the last minute, to avoid having them scuttle the article or come out with an alternative take in The Detroit Free Press. I will confirm as soon as I know when the thing will run. We need to keep these people in the DARK until the bomb goes off. That's the only way it will do any good. They cannot be tipped off in any way. I am convinced they will stop at nothing to try to prevent us from speaking out.
These sons of pregnant doges can say that now they won't polygraph John, but how do you think that will look?! They can make all the threats they want about what they will or won't do now that we are exposing them as the f--k-ups that they are, but in about 48 hours they will have lost any control over how this f--ker proceeds. It's not like my Dad didn't give them every opportunity to do the right thing. They just refuse. You know all-too-well how that works. I am nervous, but I know this is the way it has to be for now. These guys are the dirtiest of the dirty. Utterly unbelievable. Cathy
I helped my brother construct a gigantic timeline/flow chart from 1976 to 1992. From 1992-on, I typed up notes about you contacting the cops, the "investigation" of John, etc., up until the present day. It has some gaps, but under the circumstances it gets the job done.
The flow chart starts at the top with the Busch family and the Hastings family. My brother has included information about a douche bag who ran with Busch back in the day--Gregory Green. He was in jail when Tim was abducted, but may have been involved with Busch in some of the other killings. Hastings' deal runs parallel to the Busch deal and demonstrates the physical proximity, similarities between the two men (basically everything except pedophelia and Busch's access to huge quantities of $$). I believe the paper wants to photograph the flow chart, just to show the sheer size of it (not the contents, which would not be legible in a photo). Rest assured that Hastings receives top billing and occupies the right-hand side of the chart.
My brother says the reporter totally gets the Hastings thing; that they shut you down; that the cops have never REALLY investigated him or his family. Depending on what Gray says or doesn't say, she may or may not be able to run anything about Hastings in this first article. She has a long-retired detective who provided comment on Busch, but of course no one will comment yet on Hastings. If she calls you, I'd say there is a greater chance Hastings will get some mention in this intial article; if not, that will be in round 2. As my brother said, her editors have reigned in her article a lot at this stage. I know she will continue to work on this and that as the rats start running from the sinking ship, Hastings' name and the bullnuts you have gone through over the past almost 2-decades will be made more public. They need something from LE to cover their ass at this point. I believe that is why the article is going to be written in terms of the Kings versus the MSP.
My Dad is convinced Chris Busch killed Tim. He agrees with me and my brothers that Hastings is either involved, has knowledge or had deep suspicions that should have been voiced to LE at the time, and that he should have been investigated much more carefully both in 1977 and 1992. If this entire thing was covered up in order for the MSP to "save face," of course they would have had no interest in truly investigating Hastings, who was dangerously close to Busch. The MSP has yet to inform my Dad on the status of Hastings' polygraph. We are totally in the dark again and I expect that will worsen after Thursday.
Let the games begin. It is our opening punch; it's the best we can do. Exposing the MSP for what they are is the first step. No one in LE can back us up right now, but I am quite sure that will change after this thing goes out on Thursday. Be prepared for Busch to get some heavy press (she has a lot of criminal background on him it sounds like). John is not in the clear, not by a long shot. The goal right now is to turn the MSP upside down and get the public to open their eyes. Our initial goal is a "f--k you" to the MSP and it sounds like that will be accomplished. We won't see the article before it goes out, of course, but I have faith in my brother's take on the reporter.
Our best hope is that the MSP is unable to move on any of this before Thursday. The reporter has not yet called Gray or Charles Busch. She will no doubt leave this until the last minute, to avoid having them scuttle the article or come out with an alternative take in The Detroit Free Press. I will confirm as soon as I know when the thing will run. We need to keep these people in the DARK until the bomb goes off. That's the only way it will do any good. They cannot be tipped off in any way. I am convinced they will stop at nothing to try to prevent us from speaking out.
These sons of pregnant doges can say that now they won't polygraph John, but how do you think that will look?! They can make all the threats they want about what they will or won't do now that we are exposing them as the f--k-ups that they are, but in about 48 hours they will have lost any control over how this f--ker proceeds. It's not like my Dad didn't give them every opportunity to do the right thing. They just refuse. You know all-too-well how that works. I am nervous, but I know this is the way it has to be for now. These guys are the dirtiest of the dirty. Utterly unbelievable. Cathy