Bob The Secret Occk Source~

[Helen Dagner]

I'm not going to tell you that I stumbled upon this by accident-because I didn't- It took Hours & Hours to read Hundreds and Hundreds of Emails~ So some good advice I would like to give BOB,is that I know you are more than one person,that is why you do not get recognized when you talk~ your all from Law Enforcement and you all hate Prosecutor Jessica Cooper-you have no reason to-but you blame her,because when you presented your c-o-c-k and Bull story to the Task Force-you thought -It was because of her-that they wouldn't run with it-so you went to the Newspaper-to tell them your story-and that back fired on you also-because the News guy went to the Task Force and they showed him what they had on your theory-and they agreed-You have nothing of value~ (Continue-got to go up and get the emails I want to post with this-be right back)~Here we go-This is from 6 yrs ago-Sound familiar to you BOB**Ms. Dagner

In regards to your statement of letting the media review the Xxxxxxx
file, my answer to that will be, "No I will not". The only reason I
allowed the newspaper reported to review only a small portion of the
material regarding the other investigation, was due soley to the fact
that the person making all the waves was a retired police Lt. with a
department that was on the task force. Also, the reporter making the
inquiries is a highly respected member of the news media, and has been
involved with the case since day one. At the very least, he deserved a
response.

In regards to your statement, "How can you for sure rule anyone out
completely, unless you were present yourself"? If you mean, was anyone
there when John allegedly made statements to you, or were they present
during the commission of the murders? This kind of dialog is pointless.
If you're refering to being present during the crimes, I have literally
thousands of documented investigations where none of the officers were
present, however they did their investigations.

I did talk to Jerry Tobias many times prior to his death about the
OCCK, and not once did he ever mention your name or your information
about your suspect.

Lastly, Dave nor I can figure out what you're trying to say when you
speak of Dave's dad, "Why would Robertson's son doubt any of this
today?"

Det Gray and Robertson

[Helen Dagner]

Now BOB, This is from January Posted at Topix From Petoskey~*Top Cop wrote:
Footnote: For all the people posting that claim to have inside information and direct contact with investigators. It is amazing that none of you are aware that the Michigan State Police have been collecting DNA samples from every available family members of the victims recently in an effort to implicate a family member in these crimes. Any family member that has refused to provide a DNA sample has been threatened that the Michigan State Police will obtain a court order to force them to provide one.
In addition they are pursuing a theory that none of the cases are related.
So why haven't the posters with all their inside information disclose this information~

[Helen Dagner]

I think you probably all ready know what I will be doing next-There will be more emails....more Facts!~ More Personal Info~ and it will go on and on~until you stop this CHARADE~ I bet I can even work and a apology....out of you to the Public-before we get done with this little game you are playing on us all-So BOB and Company,for your own sake,Please Cease and Desist....

[Helen Dagner]

Oh Yes, I wanted to get this one posted tonight-and ad a note-Do you know where the Down State Cops go when they retire?-Yep to Petoskey -and most of them then take Jobs with local LE * Here Is The Post from TOP COP again from Topix~Top Cop wrote:
MS. Dagner, you only demonstrate exactaly what I stated with your post. Your credibility as it relates to most of theories are the problem not the solution. This is clearly noted by several of your representations including the most ridiculous ststement ever conveyed when you allegde that you provided investigators with DNA evidence of your suspect and they through it out the window.
It is a FACT that the Michigan State Police are currently investicating the family members of the victims. It is also a FACT that they are currently pursuing a THEORY that none of the cases are related. It is also a FACT that they have told family members that they would obtain a court
order to compel them to provide a DNA sample if they refuse to give one voluntarily. I might suggest you find yourself a new pasttime. If you knew half of what you think you do, you would no less than nothing.-(Note-Will See lol)

[Helen Dagner]

Helen, I read in the News Media ,that Bob claims he has spent $10,000,on this case in 6 years,what do you think of that? Matt--Well lets see-there are 365 days in a year and you would times that against 6 years..and after we divide it--yep looks like a tad over 5 bucks a day-I would say that was doable~couple cups of coffee-sure I believe him ;D

[Helen Dagner]

Matt-actually their claim is --*(Behind that are claims through Jarvis and her attorney that an informant and his associates have spent 5,000 hours and $100,000 in recent years investigating the cases on their own. } You can do the math....this is claimed to be over 6 years-So it doesn't come out to much-when it is shared by several people~