Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 13, 2012 18:19:48 GMT -5
Helen, this guy is so full of BS,that you think he would bust-Hey is he Gay? Living in SF?(TruthDude
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EnoughAlready wrote:
Truthdude,
Word of advice....those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. It was YOU that just couldn't keep your mouth shut where Helen was concerned.
I fail to believe that any proud member in good standing with the APA would make a claim as broad that ALL convicted felons are liars. Hmmm...no bias there - how does that work in your career? Do you actually look at the test? Or, is it just more efficient to mark "fail - liar!" on the results because they had a felony 10...20 or 30 years ago?
Finally, maybe you need to go back and read some of your accusations towards Helen - then read your own posts. Anyone who didn't subscribe to your theories quit posting here months ago.
That is all, I'm out again....this board makes me sick.
EnoughAlready, from TruthDude
I've considered your response here, but must ask you to broaden your horizons a bit. It is not "MY Bias" that considers all felons as not credible, but rather the law in all 50 States, and many other nations. They are as you may know NOT permitted to testify under oath, own a firearm, and in many cases not vote either in some places. I did not set those standards, Society and Judges in legislation and case law has.
Post after Post, Week after Week, we have been exposed to claims here wherein the mentioned individual claimed to have held and seen a picture of one of the abducted children while they were in captivity. Mind You, NOT just that it might have been, but this stated as a historical fact. Imagine the pain this caused the aged Father of this boy, and the surviving three siblings who read that. She did this all in the name of adding another lie to prop up her suspect (apparently no longer law enforcement's), and again drawing attention to herself vs. actual Truth to forward the case toward closure. Further, we are time after time told she has some special relationship to law enforcement as if they relied on her for her guideance in this case, when in reality she burned that bridge long ago.
You claim I cast stones when living in a glass house myself. No Sir, Truth stands on it's own foundation. I have forwarded no theories here, and rather informed those here of my actual experiences and what contribution I could make, and did so. It is not a theory, and rather an opening in the case that lead to actual answers in what appears to be a cover up about a priviliged member of Detroit's high society types who otherwise had three or four convictions for pedophilia, but never spend a day in prison. It was about information that revealed an individual who was part of a larger group that used and abused children in the same time frame, geographic area, and manner, as the victims we know were taken, used up, and killed. This goes way beyond a theory, and is rather the criteria under which a grand jury can determine whether to indict other known members of said group.
Lastly, some have privately contacted me asking many questions as to if I'm writing a book, seeking a reward, or calling me a hero in the case. I will have none of that, as the simple truth is I did what I did for my childhood friend, and could never take blood money for it. My loyalty is to Tim and his family, and to have assisted law enforcement any way I could, and did so at my own expense; and not the Michigan tax payer's. That is the construction of my house EnoughAlready, and not one built from a foundation of a self engrandizing website to push any theory or obsession. I'm told I have the full gratitude and respect of Tim's family from each of his family members individually, and as a group; and that is all I care about.)TruthDude
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EnoughAlready wrote:
Truthdude,
Word of advice....those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. It was YOU that just couldn't keep your mouth shut where Helen was concerned.
I fail to believe that any proud member in good standing with the APA would make a claim as broad that ALL convicted felons are liars. Hmmm...no bias there - how does that work in your career? Do you actually look at the test? Or, is it just more efficient to mark "fail - liar!" on the results because they had a felony 10...20 or 30 years ago?
Finally, maybe you need to go back and read some of your accusations towards Helen - then read your own posts. Anyone who didn't subscribe to your theories quit posting here months ago.
That is all, I'm out again....this board makes me sick.
EnoughAlready, from TruthDude
I've considered your response here, but must ask you to broaden your horizons a bit. It is not "MY Bias" that considers all felons as not credible, but rather the law in all 50 States, and many other nations. They are as you may know NOT permitted to testify under oath, own a firearm, and in many cases not vote either in some places. I did not set those standards, Society and Judges in legislation and case law has.
Post after Post, Week after Week, we have been exposed to claims here wherein the mentioned individual claimed to have held and seen a picture of one of the abducted children while they were in captivity. Mind You, NOT just that it might have been, but this stated as a historical fact. Imagine the pain this caused the aged Father of this boy, and the surviving three siblings who read that. She did this all in the name of adding another lie to prop up her suspect (apparently no longer law enforcement's), and again drawing attention to herself vs. actual Truth to forward the case toward closure. Further, we are time after time told she has some special relationship to law enforcement as if they relied on her for her guideance in this case, when in reality she burned that bridge long ago.
You claim I cast stones when living in a glass house myself. No Sir, Truth stands on it's own foundation. I have forwarded no theories here, and rather informed those here of my actual experiences and what contribution I could make, and did so. It is not a theory, and rather an opening in the case that lead to actual answers in what appears to be a cover up about a priviliged member of Detroit's high society types who otherwise had three or four convictions for pedophilia, but never spend a day in prison. It was about information that revealed an individual who was part of a larger group that used and abused children in the same time frame, geographic area, and manner, as the victims we know were taken, used up, and killed. This goes way beyond a theory, and is rather the criteria under which a grand jury can determine whether to indict other known members of said group.
Lastly, some have privately contacted me asking many questions as to if I'm writing a book, seeking a reward, or calling me a hero in the case. I will have none of that, as the simple truth is I did what I did for my childhood friend, and could never take blood money for it. My loyalty is to Tim and his family, and to have assisted law enforcement any way I could, and did so at my own expense; and not the Michigan tax payer's. That is the construction of my house EnoughAlready, and not one built from a foundation of a self engrandizing website to push any theory or obsession. I'm told I have the full gratitude and respect of Tim's family from each of his family members individually, and as a group; and that is all I care about.)TruthDude