Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 6, 2011 2:43:31 GMT -5
I guess what I'm trying to do is compartmentalize it. Trying to find out how & why this guy decides to " spill his story " 14 years after. I'm just trying to understand......was he trying to seduce you with promises of info & daily meetings confessing to murder? When he told you certain facts & admitted wrongdoing............were you aroused ? Could you tell if he got pleasure talking of it ?
For me, the 14 years before he popped into your life are way too muddy to make sense out of. ( for me anyway )
To be totally honest.......even if he DIDN'T do it, I still find him a good mystery to unravel.
When you spent so much time with him in Alpena........did he ever have a favorite place he liked to go ? If he shared an apartment...( the guys name was Richard ? ) and had a small office........I wonder if he had another "private" place in town. I take it he didn't have a car ?
I'm trying to start from day one in Alpena........ Where he lived, where he worked. Was he trying to seduce you. Did he ever ask to be co-author of this book you were writing.
I know these people & LE have bashed you........That's not what I'm about.
In my honest thoughts, I wonder if he assumed you were "turned on" by murder.........and he gave you info bit by bit....... That's why I ask about the sexual relationship. And if there was one..........was he "strange" in his intimacy?
I could babble on but I know you probably have MANY posts to sort through.
I hope you do email me.......Xxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com
Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 26, 2011 7:41:32 GMT -5
What I really don't understand is why the police are not acting on your tips?? Ignorance or embarrassment. Does John want to be caught? I believe that it's time. Not only did he take four angels from their family but he changed Oakland County and the safe feeling people had about raising their families there. I think the citizens need to take action now. How can I help to make a difference? Please let me know ......John needs to be grab and snatched just like he did to Mark , Jill, Kristine, and Timothy. Lisa -------------- Original message --------------
Post by Helen Dagner on May 1, 2011 0:16:04 GMT -5
I don't think anybody will ever know the truth, it's all so mind boggling. It just doesn't sit right in my head that 2 of the most notorious serial child killers in Michigan...really nationally with OCCK..could live that close to one another and not have any connection at all. Jess
Post by Helen Dagner on May 3, 2011 22:39:27 GMT -5
Firefighters fight blaze at Alpena Big Boy on Chisholm street-this is the same Big Boy that Heleen and John met at everyday for 9mo to talk about the Oakland County Child Murders-this is were John drew the Maps of the pick-up and drop offs--a passer-by saw the fire at 10pm and called the Alpena Center Dispatch reporting flames on the Thunder Bay Riverside of the Restaurant,flames were also visible on the roof.... www.thealpenanews.com/page/content.detail/id/517394/Firefighters-fight-blaze-at-Big-Boy.html?nav=5004
Post by Helen Dagner on May 6, 2011 11:59:03 GMT -5
NO ONE IS WORKING ON THE OAKLAND COUNTY CHILD MURDER CASES OF 1976-77...and the good news is,there is absolutely NO action going on with ,or toward the Cass Corridor or Fox Island group "That has been a( Dead End) for many years now and has No relevance to the Occk cases"-This comes straight from the Big Kahuna!
Post by Helen Dagner on May 11, 2011 0:40:28 GMT -5
Yes,the Occk Task Force is still working the Oakland County Child Murder Cases of 1976-77 and if you have any information about any of the four cases-you should get in touch with the Task Force Head- Sgt. Robertson at the Oak Park office. We are no longer taking any info on these cases-Do not give your info to any civilian persons as they have no police powers and you will not get any results... Phone-248-584-5740