Composite It is Fake!

[Helen Dagner]

Photo Posted on the Internet Tonight has never been a Occk Suspect Nor is that a real Composite It is Fake!

[Helen Dagner]

I am very familiar with the story of the $5,000 said to have been paid for boys-this is one of several hundred emails I receive from the same person over a year time span-I have posted many of them on the site and posted the photo-
GLEN KILAR Age (56) & Daniel Kostanecki Age (60)
They
lived on Albion st. in Farmington, and Marx st.in Detroit.
I have a lot to talk to you about- this individual(Glen Kilar) was head maintenance manager for everyone of the NBD banks, we need to get together soon on this , as he oversaw the securities, such as overnight depositories/dropboxes , safe deposits/storage boxes, and their maintenance, and more for all the NBD Banks in the metro-detroit area, He took over for his father.He was adopted, Also he was gay... his lover was my ex-'s brother Daniel Kostanecki, Daniel ran a (Audio-Visual) bussiness called ("Todd's" Audio Visual in Detroit,Mi.) off of Woodward, south of Highland Park (this one brother of my ex- handled the reel to reel film-making and producing of the pornographic material in exchange for money for each child even if it meant flying-out. Also there was a usual exchange of drugs promised along with the set amount of money "per" child, something like $5,000.00 per child w/ photos or films sometimes more was paid out, it depended on the quality of the photo's/films. drugs of their choice and other's involved in the exchange was cocaine and marajaiuana, (pcp), which was placed and sold into the marajaunna for it's hallucinogenic effects. There was always the burden of Glen Kilar having to pay-off his lover, Daniels debts he owed usually to some very serious people in the bussiness. These two clowns were only "some" of the people involved with these serious bussinessmen who were involved in the pornography indus. They didn't take no for an answer. Sounds like rhetoric out of a filmbusting movie, but believe you me, these are very dangerous men. Some very serious gambling erupted amongst several Police officers, Firemen, Bussinessmen,etc. from local suburbs/cities in and around the out-skirts of Oakland County. even chief of police and a judge, in two different cities that I know of. The Hazel Park raceway was frequented by many LE, Things got real big with one Lt. "and... The bets were on. I will con't... on a new e-mail. Helen, just so,so, much going on, so very much that needs to be revealed, CAUTIOUSLY. i know.
ALSO of Note: Daniel Kostanecki lived with Glen Kilar on (ALBION ST. Farmington Hills,Mich.) while living at the house with GLEN KILAR on ALBION
Daniel Kostanecki I believe he was leaving his job at the "Livonia AMC Plant" The one where they made the "AMC GREMLIN". he drove a Gremlin, Javelin, and a lime-green or red-Rammbler and , a Matador. compliments of AMC. Daniel Kostanecki is no longer alive, he passed in 1996-7 of HIV. He was cremated and his ashes were buried on top of his mother's casket, who, ironically died on MARCH 22,1977 around 3:00-6:00 AM. from suffocation from fluid build-up in her lungs, only I have learned it was no accidental death. Later that evening there was a family gathering at a relatives house to plan the funeral, that relatives name was (Ralph Sawicki) and he lived on Scone St. Livonia,MI off the subject somewhat,(THIS MAN also owned the cottage up near tawais/black river area) aka. "The family cottage" Alpena and Ossineke, was were all the brothers and friends would hunt,etc.. I heard that during that get together "One" of the OAKLAND COUNTY CHILD KILLER"S left Ralph Sawicki's on Scone St.
met with some other's involved,went to Glen Kilar's home on Albion St. to retrieve Tim King, who had been in Tecumseh Mich, all week on a farm,an old "farmhouse". (Ralph Sawicki commited suicide.) He has a younger brother Tom Sawicki, from Livonia as well. I have more ,gunna get some shut-eye. take care talk to you tomorrow. Jen

[Helen Dagner]

I posted this just yesterday the 19th- 2013-It is from the same person and Reference her going to see Mr. King-*Helen you are taking me all wrong, What I meant to tell you, Is I am wondering if he is in Michigan and close by, so I can watch my back. And there is no paranoia or questionable sanity here with me, I trust you Helen , you are just taking some of my comments and questions wrong. Let me just tell you if you think you may be dealing with an incompitant individual, say so , I know whats in my background, it's no mystery or secret I have had issues, but I will let you judge for yourself, Cause on this end, I'm no idiot. If Cathy's father talk's to her about any of this, he would have told her I sincerely showed-up at her father's home about xxxxxxxx ago, as I called him asking if I could come by. trying to tell him for once what I knew, He asked do you mind if A police officer I know is present? and I said no... as I had no concern about that, Studt was there. I just wanted to meet mr King and try and tell him what my ex- has been telling me. to try to help out.XXX

[Helen Dagner]

The above post was a re-post from 2008-The reason I ran it -was to let a Detroit News Media reporter know-that I was on to there game-On March 24th,I receive several Emails,from this reporter -telling me they were researching a tip,and that they needed some info,in order to continue their research-and they needed email addresses for Terri and Jen,in order to verify,the emails they had read from these two gals-about this suspect-I told them the story was bogus-it took a year out of my life investigating it-however I still sent them the contact info-Had I known the Photo and Sketch was going to appear,I would have told them about it-that the Sketch is not a real police sketch-where info was given by and eye witness-but was and over lay made at Kinko's-I have others showing the same face of the guy in the photo-one is with him wearing a hoodie- I'm not going to re post them,because,it is just more false info and haven't we all had enough of that? I know there are still people who are interested in these cases,and when you see something like this -you think because it is posted on the Internet-It must be true...But it is not-most story's have been spun and spun until there is no truth in it-a good example of that is The fairy tail addition put out a while back by the Detroit Free Press-It was a good read...but unfortunately it had very little truth in it-In fact the Prosecutor had to have Chief Don Studt go to Mr. King and tell him Chris Busch was not a Suspect,and finally it reached the news Media,so now they are at least correcting that in every reason story-I'm just shaking my head to think that the reporter who is a friend of the Kings,would try to fool me- I don't know but maybe they think I am just plain stupid or getting senile in my old age-Well I still think -that they can not get up early enough or stay up late enough to pull the wool over my eyes- So why do they keep trying??

[Helen Dagner]

I sincerely want the new Occk Blog to make it and I sincerely want to make my site stationary,I want to quit posting and enjoy the remainder of my life-stress free- But I also feel and obligation to correct all this Bogus crap...But it is never going to let up-everyone thinks they are and expert on these cases-but none of us are-how could we be -all the official reports are in error,people read them and pick out what fits their story,then add to it and then post it on the internet-

[Helen Dagner]

Look I fully agree that the families of the child victims have been mis lead by certain Law Enforcement individuals,and on more than one occasion,but all of these family members are above average intelligences,by now they should be able to see ,they are beating a Dead Horse,and it is time to get real....

[Helen Dagner]

Helen, No,..that is not what I am doing
(eluding) I do know things surrounding the case no one else knows, I am
not an unwell woman who is delusional or otherwise, I have repeatedly
discussed matter's over and over and information that does not seem
like it is being attended to, nor looked-into. I can't make it any
clearer to LE, you or these families of the victim's. Despite my
rebellious nature in the past with any LE, with personal matter's
,jail-time, or pending charges for things in my past, is clearly
irrelevant
in this matter and, to make matter's worse any Psycho-analyzing of
myself needs to stop. "I am" a not too sure woman some of the
time,..have made poor decision's, have some unresolved family issue's
, But surely am of sound enough mind and have enough sanity to know the
difference between (wrong and right). The ridicule needs to end.Did
you or any other LE ever stop and think.... Maybe this woman does
know something significant, and maybe we ought to re-interview her,
although we interviewed her before it might be worth our time again
and again if need be. Why do you think I would be putting losing my
children on the line, by talking about this nuts, when I could be doing
something much more constructive and valuable with my time and family
member's ,friend's and relations. You have to realize Helen ,I don't
mean to be a pregnant dog about this or come off mysterious and evasive, But I
grew up in Michigan,Did work with Marian King in a Birmingham dental
office, personally talking to her about what happened to her son, and
that was before I met my two-year old's father who owned a blue Gremlin
and was investigated by the original task-force during the murder's.And
when they re-opened the investigation in Feb. 2005, he went off the
deep end that night, telling me "I have something to tell you", "I am
involved in the Oakland County Child Killing's". Furthermore, I Do know
a lot of people,"who strangely and ironically" cross a lot of path's
with each other, and with some very significant people of interest
surrounding this O.c.c.k case. I have lived in Detroit,lived in
Ferndale, lived in Royal Oak,where my oldest daughter went to
school(and yes a catholic school) lived in Grosse Pte. Park,lived in
Warren, My real parent's before I was adopted lived not only down in
Cass Corridor, but lived on Junction and Michigan ave.(south-central
Detroit) And these were not short stints- each place was for several
years or more. I just moved from Pontiac, (in which i spent 3-years
there) from 2003-2005, Moved to Lake Orion last year and back again
recently,(And yes I know John Hastings is back in Lake Orion in the
Orion Cove Apartments) Also as far as Pontiac is concerned, I am very
familiar with Apple lane apartment's, d**n, I feel like I am writing a
resume to convince you....YES, Strangely enough for only being 38 yrs
old,
I have Been, Seen, And heard a lot of surprising, correlating,
information here in Oakland Co.MI.
I have quit a few friend's and connection's spanning across not just
Oakland Co., but Wayne Co.and, Macomb Co. as well. This is what happens
when you have come from an unstable and dysfunction environment as I
have. Yes,... I do have a "criminal" record, so be it,I can't change
who I was or what I did, I am just Jeannie, no mystery to it, check and
see my life is an open book, ask LE what's up with me. I am not eluding
anything, don't have no reason to. I am trying to tell what I know,also
have heard, And until certain particular's that don't want to take the
time, or make an effort to do a little more (in-depth) investigating,
and take the cotton-balls out of there ear's,
this will never be concluded. by the way what happened to all the
feed-back on the information I sent you since January this year?I was
always exchanging info-rarely ever seeing or hearing more than I did
from you. Once again, you even say it yourself, how can a case be
solved if people don't share and work "together"? Like for example
info on the name/owner of the LeMan's I gave you yesterday? I am
practically putting it right in LE's faces for them. did you get
anything? his name is Phil Xxxxxxxx, he had a "white" LeMans
bought it in Kentucky,it was a 1969-70 special edition. He had a hitch
on the back, like I said, primer spots and a smash in the tail-end. At
Kristine's drop-off
he and another man put pubic hair in Kristine's mouth (i have made
mention of this absolute fact before).
(not Kristine's own hair), whoever told you that it was Kristine hair
off her head is LYING.THIS IS FACT.I will swear it the truth until I
croak.And it is fact that Kristine was sexually
assaulted,post-mortem,with the end of a snow-scraper handle,Sgt.Anger
will disagree with me at this til the cow's come home, oh well to him
he's retired now.(this only the killer's would know as well) In the
book "Sheep's in skin's and clothing" or whatever that dumb book is
called, there states in a chapter a discrepancy over-weather or
not,Kristine had been sexually abused, there is truth to that statement
in that book that those two from the crime lab, were disagreeing about,
there was a reason like"reasoning" would say.. for them adding that
into the book that way.This was crucial evidence that women from the
crime lab was arguing, then she was forced to agree with the male
Dr.and no one cared to follow her opinion, that's a shame, and it was
written-off. For starter's Gray needs to go back into those Dr.s
opposite finding's on the girls being sexually molested (ALL OVER
AGAIN). Tell him I said that next time you catch him skimming your site
for clue's. You need to believe what I am telling you and compromise, I
am telling you FACT. No one would know this type of information except
the killer himself or someone else who was present when this was done,
or someone who was told this information.(like me) I am going to ask
you one last time, I want to know if you will work with me?...Quit
being cold, and believing I am just a nut-job toying with you.
I want you to really consider something, some of what I do know thus
far, wasn't dreamed-up,you yourself have to admit you were suprised
over me having knowledge to several topic's from past conversation.
Helen you are fast- I am slow at corresponding. Don't mistake me.
I am very sincere and have been very truthful in all the information I
have provided to you,Or any of LE.
all of it may NOT have been correct, Or "That's Not The Way It
Happened"!! But give me the opportunity to help, and like I tried to
bring to the table before
maybe,between the two of us,we will have enough in-common-fact
that the A.G. office can't deny bringing this in. Farewell and
good-luck if I don't hear from you again,I am a big-girl, And "Big
Girl's " Don't Cry. take care JS


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