Post by Helen Dagner on Oct 17, 2012 0:23:17 GMT -5
I'm not taking any FEEDBACK on "BOBs" Latest -However,you will be given and opportunity to respond~ After I post an article I have been working on-Where I will be kicking BOB and The Million Dollar Suit Attorneys -A$$~ and others~I had Scheduled It to be posted in Nov. after the Presidential Election,as I am really busy trying to make sure that Obama gets kicked to the Curb--and since the BOB story hasn't a chance in Hell of going any where soon-I most likely will stick to my original timeline~
Post by Helen Dagner on Oct 31, 2012 1:28:03 GMT -5
I have to give these jokers credit for being able to keep their Wonderland Cult Story In The News Media-However I feel it is my duty to tell you what I know-Let me begin by telling you I have had all this Info since 2006-every bit of it-Now how is it possible-for me to have all this information ,when BOB didn't start to tell his story until 2010? I can tell you -I didn't get it through any Psychic Vision...It was all sent to me...by other people and yes I did investigate it-well I had a lot of help doing it-and there is absolutely NO truth to this-Wonderland Story-- It is late so I will get back to this...
Post by Helen Dagner on Oct 31, 2012 18:43:12 GMT -5
I didn't realize how many of you would need back ground on BOB and the Attorney-so I will post a few news articles so you can get a better understanding on them-100 million Dollar Law Suit~
Relief being sought in lawsuit includes a request for outside investigation by Department of Justice. Complaint alleges a conspiracy, cover up, and misconduct by Jessica Cooper in Oakland County Child Killer Serial Killer cases.
DETROIT, April 23, 2012, A Press Conference is scheduled for 11:00 a.m. Tuesday, April 24, 2012, to announce a lawsuit filed on Monday in the United States District Court Eastern District of Michigan Southern Division. It includes a request for an outside investigation by the Department of Justice.
The Press Conference shall be held across the street from the Detroit Renaissance Center at the Courtyard by Marriott, 333 East Jefferson Ave, Detroit, MI 48226 by Attorney Paul Hughes representing the estate of murder victim Kristine Mihelich, and her mother Debbie Jarvis.
This Press Conference Is For Media and Invited Guests Only.
The Lawsuit names the Oakland County Prosecutors Office, Jessica Cooper, and Paul Walton as Defendants. Also named in the lawsuit are the Oakland County Sheriffs Department, Michael Bouchard, and Mike McCabe, and The Michigan State Police, David Robertson, Denise Powell, and Darby O'Dell.
The lawsuit alleges a conspiracy and cover-up throughout the investigation of the abduction and murders of four known Child Serial Killer victims and up to as many as 20 others over at least three states. That new evidence and suspects have intentionally been ignored and dismissed by Jessica Cooper that implicates a member of Law Enforcement's involvement.
A request for assistance has been made to Michigan Senator Carl Levin, Senator Debbie Stabenow, and Representative John Conyers asking for their support in initiating an independent investigation by the Department of Justice out of Washington, DC.
It is hoped that their intervention shall cause Jessica Cooper to discontinue her efforts to block any outside investigation by the Department of Justice. That Ms. Cooper has failed to provide any justification for not supporting an investigation that would allow new suspects, victims, and evidence to be investigated so that the victims and their families may receive justice.
Post by Helen Dagner on Oct 31, 2012 21:37:06 GMT -5
The AP never has written a story about the "informant." What's posted here is a fallacy written on a blog.The unidentified source shared specific and detailed information about the case that is only known by a few investigators, and new information about a possible suspect and the suspects' connection to police. The source relayed conversations and observations that took place with the possible suspect between 1977 and 1985 that connects the suspect and at least one police officer to the killings.
The source and investigative journalists working on this case believe it is possible that law enforcement representatives may have been involved in a cover up for someone in law enforcement who participated in what is now believed to be the abduction and murders of at least seven children.
Oakland County Child Killer; Police Cover Up and Cult Rituals
AP - Thurs Nov 4, 2010, 1:48 AM EDT
OAKLAND COUNTY , Michigan - On February 15, 1976 it began. The abduction and murders of four Oakland County children officially linked to what became known as the Oakland County Child Killer or The Babysitter. The Babysitter because the children were held captive for a period between three and 19 days then bathed and redressed in freshly laundered clothes.
Mark Stebbins, 12, Jill Robinson, 12, Kristine Mihelich, 10 and Timothy King, 11, were kidnapped and killed in a similar manner over a 13 month period. In addition, at least three other children between the ages of 12 and 15 are now believed to also be victims of The Babysitter.
At the time it was the most extensive murder investigation in US history. For 34 years, police, task force and federal investigators have believed that a pedophile or sex ring was responsible. But now law enforcement admits every possible suspect has been eliminated through their investigation, DNA testing and physical evidence. Have the real killers been laughing at authorities throughout the decades as they watched investigators drive the train that may have led the investigation down the wrong track?
And now some are questioning whether prosecutors and law enforcement are more concerned about getting credit for solving this high profile case, then cooperating with sources and investigative reporters. Just recently, Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper, Assistant Prosecutor Paul Walton, Oakland County Under Sheriff Mike McCabe and Sheriff Michael Bouchard quietly took the case away from the Michigan State Police task force lead by Detective Sergeant David Robertson.
On October 18th, 2010 at 9:40 AM a secret meeting took place at former Detroit Police Chief, Ike McKinnon's office with Walton, McCabe, Corey Williams of the Associated Press, and a source with new information about this case. The meeting took place after McKinnon and Williams gave new information from the source to Cooper, Walton and McCabe. The unidentified source shared specific and detailed information about the case that is only known by a few investigators, and new information about a possible suspect and the suspects' connection to police. The source relayed conversations and observations that took place with the possible suspect between 1977 and 1985 that connects the suspect and at least one police officer to the killings. The source and Williams each made a recording of this meeting because it is believed that there may be an ongoing cover up for at least one police officer that may have been involved with these killings.
The source admits that back then he did not have much interest in the case. But a series of news reports starting in 2005 triggered their interest. Now the source believes there is new information that connects a person of interest to the case. Also, the source has developed information related to a connection with ritual and cult activities.
The source says this possible suspect had specific information about this case known only to a few investigators at the time and that he would boast about getting the information from investigators. The source told the prosecutor and investigator at the meeting that this person of interest claimed to have relationships with police in southern Michigan including officers from Troy , Ferndale , Redford and Detroit . This matches the thoughts of a former FBI profiler who reviewed this new information and believes someone in law enforcement may be involved in the Oakland County Child Killings.
The source believes this evidence points to at least two people involved in these serial killings. The source also believes if this potential suspect is responsible then the source may also have information as to where two other victims not officially recognized as Oakland County Child Killing victims may have been buried. These remote sites were locations that the suspect had access to in an area central to abductions and murders that have not been officially linked to the Oakland County Child Killers. Near the end of this secret meeting, Walton and McCabe asked if this person of interest is still alive. The source advised them that the suspect was still alive, living in the area, but would not reveal their name at that time. The source said they would receive the suspects name once the source is convinced this person was involved. That because over the years police in this case have released suspect's names that were thrown out to the public, and later quietly excluded after the damage was done to their reputations.
Both Walton and McCabe were advised that if they would provide information regarding evidence in the case, and if that information were to further confirm the involvement of the potential suspect, then they would be provided the names of all potential suspects. Walton and McCabe said they would first have to clear releasing that information with Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper. Four days later when they were supposed to have provided McKinnon the information as promised, they failed to do so. Days later they provided only two pieces of information that the source already had, and the source realized Cooper was not being sincere in representations that they were willing to work together in confirming this suspect’s involvement.
At that time discussions related to identifying the Oakland County Child Killers ended due to misrepresentations made to the source by Walton and McCabe. The source now believes that Cooper, Walton, and McCabe cannot be trusted, are not interested in any information that leads to police involvement, and may be involved in covering up a potential suspect’s involvement that was a police officer at the time.
For more than three months prior to the meeting of October 18th the source has been trying to work with law enforcement, including the Michigan State Police, the Oakland County Prosecutor's office and the Oakland County Sheriff's Department. Each time the source gave information, but investigators were unwilling to give any information in return that could result in the 34 year old case being solved. Now for the first time, after five years of research and working with investigative reporters, the source is making this information public in hopes that the seven murders of children now connected to this case may be solved.
Retired Berkley Police Detective, Ray Anger, has worked closely on this case since the beginning. He has told the source that over the years he has kept quiet about the shoddy police work on this very public case. He describes a reckless and chaotic task force. Detective Anger says thousands of tips and leads received at the beginning of this case were thrown away. Anger said several investigators would pick up tips at the beginning of the day and then would head to the local golf course or bar. Then they would return at the end of the day and turn in false reports regarding the tip or lead. The local police departments required to assign detectives to the Task Force would sometimes send their worst detectives to work the case, and Anger described many of them as "goofballs
Both Anger and McKinnon acknowledge law enforcement was investigating possible cult involvement. But McKinnon, who was in charge of the sex crimes unit in Detroit at the time, says he was never specifically instructed to look for any cult activity in the areas of Detroit he was investigating. Anger was asked if they were investigating possible ritual or cult activity in this case why they did not make that available to the media or public. He says "because we did not want the media running with that."
The first three children were found lying on their backs with their arms crossed over their chests. The source stumbled on the connection between this case and ritual or cult activity when trying to connect a possible acronym to the cities the children were kidnapped from and the cities where the bodies were left. The forth victim, Timothy King, was found dumped on the side of the road. The source theorizes that because of the huge police presence that night the killers had a close call in Lathrop Village, and were therefore force to dispose of King’s body in Livonia by rolling it out of the van as they drove down Gill Road just prior to turning East onto 8 Mile Road.
The source says the research shows the ritual and cult connection appears to be between two and four cults combined into one. According to one cult expert this is not uncommon because cult members generally put their group together based on their personal beliefs and opinions. This allows them to follow their own beliefs while creating a rational to justify their activities.
Post by Helen Dagner on Oct 31, 2012 21:53:58 GMT -5
So the question is-Was this above fake AP report actually written by the AP reporter who attended the BOB PHONE INTERVIEW WITH OAKLAND COUNTY AUTHORITY ?? He made the contact for Bob-and The authority were under the Impression that they could call this AP reporter to make contact with BOB-However I understand that when Oakland County tried to call the AP reporter-he said he has to wait for BOB to call him-Really?? Well there is a guy out in Atlanta Ga-named Ben Harbor-That had been working on the Atlanta Child Murders-and on the Occk Kids murders- for 20 years-His information has been on line in bits and pieces since 2006 that I know of--and the strange thing is that it matches BOBs Info-In early 2010- he sent his info toJohn E. Douglas John E. Douglas
John Edward Douglas, is a former special agent with the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation, one of the first criminal profilers, and criminal psychology author. Wikipedia - and he received a letter back-saying that he was forwarding the Info to a -AP reporter in that area-Now is it possible that this AP reporter sent the Occk items to a Michigan AP reporter? None of this may make very much sense to some of you-However it will all begin to fall in place-(To be continued)
Post by Helen Dagner on Nov 1, 2012 23:08:04 GMT -5
Was the 100 Million Dollar Law Suit filed to help solve the case? Or could it have been a plan to make waves so that the Oakland County Prosecutor mite loose the Election?? Who is "BOB" and How Many Bob's are there??-I received the following info in the mail today. I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain a round it-The Law Suit was just filed in the last couple of weeks-and It was filed by Kris Mom,she said she had been talking to this "BOB" that neither she or her attorney knew-hundreds of calls she said,they started in 2010-new Info she said-even "BOB" took to the Internet and Telephone-to talk to the news media-Here is what I am having a problem digesting- The very Info that this group talks about and this long investigation that" BOB" says he has conducted-How was it possible for me to receive that very Info in today-Marked 2009-Sent in Dec.2009 To Barry King after a phone call to him,saying it would be mailed out, then my source,receive a letter from Mr. Kings attorney in Jan.2010,saying that he would turn it over to LE...then skipping right along here-"BOB" makes a telephone call to several different people and it is recorded- on Oct.18th 2010--then Inspector71-posts this info in a make believe AP posting on Nov. 4th,2010- A long with the Info sent to Mr. King was also a very large book on Parkers Astrology -- I was also sent a copy of this book-
Post by Helen Dagner on Nov 1, 2012 23:10:27 GMT -5
Is this "BOBs" evidence? Title-The Coincidences~ "Facts" Lets take a look at the coincidences that are astrologically related-ALFA-Cynthia Cadieux-1-15-76-Mercury Aquarius---Mark Stebbins 2-15-76-Sun Aquarius--Jane Allen 8-8-76-Moon Aquarius-Jill Robinson 12-22-76-Aquarius-Kristine Mihelich 1-2-77-19days latter Moon Aquarius-Timmy King-3-16-77- Moon Aquarius-Kimberly King last Seen -9-16-79 DOB-10-21-66 -Her Sign Libra Moon Sing Aquarius--Dean Peters Last seen 2-5-81-Sun sign Aquarius--Kim Marie Larrow last seen-6-8-81-Sun Gemini Moon Virgo-DOB-12-17-65-Venus Aquarius-*I have type this right from the sheet dated -12-16-2009
Post by Helen Dagner on Nov 4, 2012 1:52:42 GMT -5
I can not decided- Do we award BOB the 2010 *BACKFIRE IN YOUR FACE AWARD"-That would be when he started this-or do we hold out and give him the 2012 award, when it is going to be the finish for him?? ;D