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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 11, 2013 13:34:54 GMT -5
This Is not an active Cover -up,It is The result of A Confederacy of Incompetent Individuals,Oakland County Mi Law Enforcement and News Media UNDERCONSTRUCTION
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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 12, 2013 23:47:01 GMT -5
1977 autopsy report of Kristine Dr. Sillerly's autopsy report and comments were interesting if not enlightening. The cause of death was asphyxia caused by smothering,also,her body was not frozen through, it had been exposed in the snow for less than 24 hours,in all probability,there was no gross evidence of sexual molestation or penetration in either girl thingy or anus, yet Dr. Sillery told a startled group of state crime lab technicians,he had found sperm in both girl thingy and rectum. He could not account for how they had gotten there,despite some unique theories about the forcefulness of ejaculation-The fact that another pathologist and two State Police laboratory technicians were subsequently unable to detect the sperm in the tissue slides he prepared-perhaps explains things adequately-there were no sperm and Kristine like Jill had NOT been violated
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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 14, 2013 0:12:31 GMT -5
Wouldn't it have been great if Robertson and Gray had put this much passion into solving the Occk cases-HELEN YOU CROSSED THE LINE~SAYS ROBERTSON~
Re-Run Email From Occk Task Force 6 yrs ago --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DET.ROBERTSON SAYS~HELEN CROSSED THE LINE!! Ms. Dagner, I am only responding to your comments related to my late father. I read your recent post with great dismay!!! I am very offended, but not surprised! It is now apparent you have NO IDEA how the task force operated or who did what during the days of the original task force or even the current "Task Force". And you have NO IDEA how a police investigation is conducted. Let me point out just a couple things; 1. My late father NEVER conducted any interviews!!! 2. He was the Task Force Commander, not one of the investigators! His duties as the Task Force Commander far exceeded just the investigation itself. And did he know about the investigation?....YES!!! Everything, because that was his responsibility!! 3. And yes I have read many items authored by my father, but NOT A SINGLE ONE was an interview of any suspect!! Having my father conduct day to day interviews would be like having the CEO of Ford Motor Company work the line and put tires on a Pick-Up!!! That's not how it is done!! You have crossed the line when you questioned the integrity of myself or my father!! Because you did not know my father and you sure don't know me! * NOTE To Robertson from Helen{YOU PUNK!!~YOU BETTER BE SITTING DOWN FOR MY REPLY!~AS WE ARE GOING TO BE TELLING THE PUBLIC~JUST HOW THE TASK FORCE WORKS!!!.....AND YOU & GRAY ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE IT!!!~I NEED TO DO MY WORK FIRST & THEN GRAB SOME INFO FROM MY FILES!!! IT IS GOING TO BE FUN...I AM GOING TO ENJOY THIS!!!}
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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 14, 2013 18:15:55 GMT -5
Helen, "His mental state should have nothing to do with an arrest/conviction! If he can drive a limo with passengers. he can be prosecuted! He was smart enough to elude the police for 36 years!" and they agreed-However from all the conversations and emails-Here is how I feel-and you know I could be wrong-but usually I'm not-I feel like they would rather-deal with mental illness-then try to prove that he is sane-because they really don't want to be all tied up with this for years- the reason I think that is-several times from different people -they said the very same thing-which was-" you know we have a lot of people that need to be eliminated -before we can charge anyone person and they would have to be sure that there wasn't someone out there some where who was also involved-like the guy he lived in Lake Orion with at the time of the Allen letter-as he would fit the bill as being the roommate with the broken English-I told them-that I believe Danto wrote that letter to himself-They seem to be nit picking the whole matter-I asked about the DNA on Tim-and If the Pontiac was the one that Johns Dad owned-and they said it would be against the Law to tell me-I asked what they did about Johns last Polygraph -and they couldn't tell me-for the same reason-They are having a problem getting any of the family to admit that John had access to the rental home-during the winter -there are only two original neighbors that could answer this-who would be in a position to know-and one is 98-the other is 89-both in bad health-They have gone to see -Johns friend who works at that Car dealer ship in Livonia-He first said he doesn't remember John-then they asked him why he didn't tell me that in the many phone calls we had...then he just went dumb and started to sputter-They have talked to the mother of Johns child-and now all of a sudden she has taken the stand that she would never of got pregnant by a serial killer-They asked me about the chicken bone deal in Tim's pocket and told me they did have cat hair from Tim's right side pants pocket,and they do have a couple of other hairs that were on him-that are now being tested-they told me the hair was coarse-so they never thought it was human-but some how they found out that it was human,I guess through preliminary testing-I told them Johns hair was so coarse,that it was like wire-They were totally surprise that I said that-They asked me if that hair sample I gave to Det. Anger,was really from Johns head? They said they were shocked that Johns sister and mother had talked to me so many times-as you would think they would just hang up on me-and have reported it to the police as harassment-and they are completely at a loss of why John has not sued me -also they want the call list with the names on it-that is about it-
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Post by CasObs on Apr 16, 2013 9:52:46 GMT -5
His mental state means everything.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 17, 2013 2:39:47 GMT -5
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