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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 4:47:16 GMT -5
Helen, I went over to Topix because I heard you were posting there,and I have to ask,what is wrong with those people? How is it possible to have so many crazy people on one forum? Rita-----Note,I haven't a clue,but I agree there are a lot of them over there~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 4:49:47 GMT -5
Helen, what does that Les think,there isn't anyone who would want to listen to his story,I have never read anything so off the wall. Rog----Note- me either~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 4:52:07 GMT -5
Why is Lilly back posting about Fox Island,she can not think that anyone is left who believes that Fox Island has anything to do with the Occk cases. Geo----Note-I think you need to ask Lilly that.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 4:54:58 GMT -5
Helen, About Les and Dan, I think this is a situation where a person has taken a nugget of information, taken an acorn and tried to turn it into a tree," . "And the tree won't support there story." Robert
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 4:57:23 GMT -5
So Helen,Will these cases ever be solved? Mike---Mike I do not think so, however one more hot tip could make the difference~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 4:59:43 GMT -5
Helen, Did they ever really let the Grand Juries work on these cases? Matt-- Note---Matt your guess would be as good as mine.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 5:04:04 GMT -5
Helen, Is this new information about the DNA from the prosecutors office really true or is it just a way for them to have everyone shut up until after the elections? I'm really getting tired of these games. Joe----Note- Joe we are all getting tired~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 5:06:22 GMT -5
Helen, I heard that they only work at these cases a few hours a week,is that true? Fred--Note-- Well I heard there is at least one gal working full time on this~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 5:10:39 GMT -5
Helen, I know longer am even interested in these cases,I remember being so excited when there was a new break in the cases,but now anything new would not even get my juices to flow, as everything turns out to be wrong. Sarah---Note--No Comment~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 5:14:19 GMT -5
Helen, I read where you have made some connections,that previously had fallen through the cracks. Will you be telling us about them? Don---Note-Yes, after we verify them again and again~
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 13, 2012 15:28:19 GMT -5
Helen, since the Rev Redmond was in the clergy business and so was John McKinney (in some way)– any known connection between Redmond and McKinney? Scott---Note-Scott-You know I'm not going to tell you that -at this time-But I will tell you this as -Since we have made some Interview calls about the different church that we feel are connected to the Occk & McKinney's and Busch's death, we have be come real popular,with two other men of God, that have no idea -that we know they are covering a lot of tracks and really fast....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 14, 2012 10:20:49 GMT -5
Helen, I love your site!! jma
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 16, 2012 6:09:44 GMT -5
Helen, I still want to find out if anyone from below 8 Mile was part of McKinney/Hastings and their church or art or art scene or common grounds or counseling or whatever. I believe they were. I think they all had a connection even just a small one some maybe bigger. I don't believe they all took part in the killings. But it would certainly account for failed polys and saying they know or others saying they knew or took part. Matt
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 16, 2012 16:05:02 GMT -5
FYI if you head that way Heard from a local WI police department tonight that starting July 1st, the State of Illinois started utilizing toll station data (license plate and driver photo’s) coupled with portable speed photography units to identify speeding vehicles in Illinois work zones to a ZERO speeding tolerance. Tickets will be mailed to the speeder (or rental car company). Please pass on to others as appropriate. Mike MiCHAEL J Broge PE, LEED® AP PrINCIPAL AEI | AFFILIATED ENGINEERS, INC. 5802 Research Park Boulevard | Madison, WI 53719 P: 608.236.1107 | F: 608.238.2614 mbroge@aeieng.com | www.aeieng.com
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jul 16, 2012 20:20:35 GMT -5
Helen, Here's one thing that gets overlooked in the argument over valid suspects. This killer was organized. This was not the work of an erratic mind. If this killer had mental health issues, they would be related to depression and/or anger, not any kind of flamboyant, outward pathology. The lack of gender selectiveness (and the abuse of only one of the genders) suggests a motive beyond simple gratification. In other words, a message. The killer derived satisfaction from what he inflicted upon the community. This person was/is not able to create or sustain healthy, normal relationships (platonic or romantic) among peers, and sought connection (sexual and otherwise) amongst children. This is not to say that the killer (and/or an accomplice) didn't derive perverse pleasure from his ritual, but that there was an overarching idea behind his acts that he used as justification. If these killings are linked to a larger circle of deviants, then the killer may well have been pointing a spotlight back on them, and may well have been a victim at some point. The signature here is the overt placement of the dressed bodies and the non-demonstrative manner of murder. Why would the killer do this?
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