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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 14, 2011 23:18:21 GMT -5
Helen, You know I also do not think that Busch' parents bought off anyone because if they did, why would they not try to buy Gunnels off? Once someone is dead, people think they can say anything about them and others will believe it, like the family member saying they knew for a fact there were pay offs. I think it is time for all of these people to start showing some proof instead of all this hearsay. Ken
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 15, 2011 9:59:48 GMT -5
Hi Helen, Is J. Reuben Appelman legitimate? I just saw your post on him. I cannot believe he knows anything more about the OCCK than you do. Matt
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 15, 2011 10:18:00 GMT -5
Cathy Broad
I just spent a long weekend in Oakland County, Michigan. My brother was the fourth victim of the child killer(s). I am now fully convinced that the Michigan State Police and the Oakland County Prosecutor will never move this case along--make that: never do anything in this case. My family discussed yesterday how all we have left is investigative journalists and authors. The police, prosecutor and court system failed these four victims completely. I support Jason's book and his determination to tell not only his story, but give a voice to those four kids.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 15, 2011 14:03:19 GMT -5
J. Reuben Appelman made his goal-208 Backers $15,270 pledged of $15,000 goal 0 seconds to go Funding Successful This project successfully raised its funding goal about 1 hour ago. Will all be waiting to see what happens....
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 16, 2011 2:54:47 GMT -5
Hi Helen, Am I imagining reading that John had Jill Robinson's father phone number? If yes, why wold he have it? Also, any guesses as to his possible connections to Jill, Mark Stebbins and Kristine Mihelich? Perhaps he knew these kids from working at Biffs? Also, I know John was a dishwasher and tried a passport business. Do you know of any other jobs he performed? Mike
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 16, 2011 9:20:20 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 16, 2011 12:00:38 GMT -5
Helen, I'm glad you are running Cathy's posts over here.because every time I go to Topix my PC gets all full of bugs, plus I don't like having to read through all that one girls nonsense It completely turns me off to the entire Oakland County case Information. Dale
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 17, 2011 14:48:31 GMT -5
Ok-So many of you want to know about the Post Cards-that Johns sister said she received from John-where he was out of the country-Well I'm sure she rec. them and they were signed by John-and stamped with the country she said-However, and I will make this brief as I plan to use this in a Voice Video that we are working on- John's Bible for never leaving a paper trail-and for creating a new Identity-was THE PAPER TRIP-from that he found a re-mail service and he used it!
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Post by battista on Jun 17, 2011 16:19:27 GMT -5
Apparently re-mailing is as easy today as ever: www.remail-letters.com/And the Paper Trip was known to work in the 70s, so much so that LE had to block its loopholes. So you'd think they would know about such tactics, or at least consider the possibility. Here's a review from Amazon: The information contained in The Paper Trip, and it's sequel, Paper Trip 2 might've been valid in the 1970s and 80s, but now is very much out of date. It does give interesting background information on methods of "paper tripping" that did work at one time but don't now. When the US Govt. got wind of Paper Trip, they plugged many loopholes. That's when Barry Reid wrote Paper Trip 2, to get around the new government safeguards. Now, in the 1990s and going into 2000, these methods may or may not work in the hinterlands of America, but forget about any major city. There are other resources out there- seek them out. Use Paper Trip as a historical reference, but nothing more.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 17, 2011 22:10:59 GMT -5
Helen, I think we need to call out the Big guns to Interview John,I'm suggesting, that You, Cathy ,Judi and Art Interview him!Then we can get to the bottom of all this. Matt
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 17, 2011 22:47:17 GMT -5
battista-great post on the re-mailing-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 19, 2011 12:48:19 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 20, 2011 9:32:50 GMT -5
I could use your help-Please go to video 9--and at about 1:46 you will see members of the victims families siting on a sofa--what I need you to do-is look at the pattern-get out your old photos and see if any of you have a photo from 1977-that has an over stuffed chair with that same pattern-the chair was large and looked almost sq-or if you can remember seeing a chair with that pattern-at anytime in the 70's-then please contact me-ASP Bingotank@aol.com I need this info-before I can post-* Get Your Bucket & Mop~LE Body Fluids~Are Going To Flow~Occk----
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 20, 2011 19:01:56 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Jun 20, 2011 19:07:28 GMT -5
My God Helen,that sounds just like Terri,but I guess you already know that. Scott
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