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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 3, 2011 18:04:50 GMT -5
What I think might have happened in those old posts was that Lilly was about ready to spill the beans. She claims there were three young men in John's old neighborhood and one was still alive. Someone (Inspector71) from John's family flew off the handle suspecting that Lilly was going to squeal on John or his family. They started making claims that Lilly was just as guilty and seemed to imply that Lilly was someone from John's family. Those old posts were filled with demented poetic crap making Lilly sound just as guilty and trying to pressure Lilly if she really wanted to come forward she would be just as guilty Questioning if she really wanted to jeopardize her family name coming forward. I have no idea who Lilly is but I believe Inspector71 could very well be someone that was involved with these murders and is associated with John's family some way. Call me a nut but that is my guess. Go back and read those old posts with these thoughts in mind and tell me what you think. Nothing else really makes any sense.
Ron
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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 3, 2011 19:41:03 GMT -5
Helen, Cathy just lost it at Topix, she just doesn't get it, You can not flip your story so many times, not to mention, there is no one who believes that Fox Island or any pedophile ring had anything to do with the Oakland County Child Murders, and that is probably the only thing that absolutely everyone agrees on. She also made the decision to align her self with Terri and Lilly, who no one has any respect for when it comes to the Occk cases. People in the media also recognize that Cathy made sure that she allowed Lilly to stab you in the back, and you have a lot of readers that are upset with that, it just doesn't set well her and her family not showing you the respect that you deserve after 20 years of trying to solve her brothers murder, She needs to step back and give herself a reality check. I have been reading Topix and the dribble they post is less believable than Detroit Dan's! Good thing Helen put her site back up to counteract the insanity going on over at Topix where the lunatics are running the asylum! Her site has been a living memorial to the four victims for as many years as I can remember,while Topix on the other hand,comes off looking like an online group therapy forum for pathological liars with antisocial personality disorders.You must think everyone didn't notice all those nasty things that Terri posted about Helen,well we notice Cathy, that you did nothing to correct them.So go Screw yourself Cathy! Jeffrey & Katherine Wagner from Cathy's Home Town
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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 4, 2011 11:08:13 GMT -5
Ron,In answer to your question in this post-What I think might have happened in those old posts was that Lilly was about ready to spill the beans. She claims there were three young men in John's old neighborhood and one was still alive. Someone (Inspector71) from John's family flew off the handle suspecting that Lilly was going to squeal on John or his family. They started making claims that Lilly was just as guilty and seemed to imply that Lilly was someone from John's family. Those old posts were filled with demented poetic crap making Lilly sound just as guilty and trying to pressure Lilly if she really wanted to come forward she would be just as guilty Questioning if she really wanted to jeopardize her family name coming forward. I have no idea who Lilly is but I believe Inspector71 could very well be someone that was involved with these murders and is associated with John's family some way. Call me a nut but that is my guess. Go back and read those old posts with these thoughts in mind and tell me what you think. Nothing else really makes any sense.
Ron Note: I haven't had a chance to re-read the posts that you are reff. to-However I did get something interesting in my emails,that mite have to do with Inspector71...I will try to get back to you on this tonight.
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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 5, 2011 2:30:36 GMT -5
Hey Helen,I found your first post,when you started your investigation into McKinney--JOHN MCKINNEY Replies: 0 JOHN MCKINNEY Helen Dagner (View posts) Posted: 8 Nov 2006 12:56AM GMT Classification: Query Edited: 11 Nov 2006 10:35AM GMT Surnames: McKinney
HI EVERYONE,IS THERE ANYONE THAT REMEMBERS JOHN McKINNEY FROM THE 1970s HE HAD A GALLERY IN BIRMINGHAM MI....AND HE LIVED IN CLAWSON MI....WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO KNOWS HIM OR HIS FAMILY.....THANK YOU,HELEN DAGNER
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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 5, 2011 12:57:52 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 5, 2011 17:41:08 GMT -5
Helen I still get amazed reading these old articles at how stupid the task force had to been. They wouldn't even put the Gremlin down after their own evidence shows different. That last paragraph says it all. Talk about confusing the public. They are interested in suspects with access to both Gremlin and Pontiac and base on the note in red they couldn't even get the model straight for the news. The public gets confused enough even when the facts are straight. Someone could have had a suspect that had a Pontiac that is suspicious as hell but since they didn't have a Gremlin the tip was never called in. It could have just as well been sled tracks as there is no way they would solve this case with their public relations on this case.
Larry
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Post by Helen Dagner on Apr 6, 2011 2:02:11 GMT -5
Scott,Until then - they can push my buttons all they want, but my buttons are currently JAMMED!
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