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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 5, 2011 23:09:06 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 5, 2011 23:11:10 GMT -5
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 10, 2011 11:21:02 GMT -5
Comments The portrayal of Jill Robinson,back In the 70's by Police and the Media...as being a runaway ...Is not true...yes she had some words with her Mom,before she left her home...she was just mad at her mother...like most girls ...her age....she was on her way to see her father...and had every Intention of going back home...one of the other things Jill said...was that her Mother was very pretty...now I ask you...would a child -who didn't plan on returning home....talk so nice about her Mom...??
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 10, 2011 12:25:06 GMT -5
One of the thing that stands out in my mind...Is that NO other suspect was ever seen doing anything related to the crimes...John drew maps of the abduction and drop off sites...NO ONE else did that.....John had a Manicure-Pedicare set hidden in the back of a desk drawer-up on a ledge-in a shoe box size office-You do remember the kids were fully manicured...Next John could describe all of the children's clothing that they were found wearing...On the one map of jills abduction he drew her bike exactly where it was left...and this was not known until 2004-by any LE...yet that was drawn in the early 90's....John knew Jill's favorite song-Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds-This was verified by a family member-he also knew their birthdates-the school's they attended-who their friends were-what there hobbies and extracurricular activities were-
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 10, 2011 12:34:20 GMT -5
UNWRAPPED PRESENT-NEAR I-75 Posted on December 25, 2004 at 07:52:22 PM by Helen Dagner
It was the day after Christmas 1976...Jill Robison, spent her day...along the snowy shoulder of busy Interstate 75, near Troy Michigan....there you were Jill, on your 12 Christmas....alone. With your backpack and all, with the left side of your face and head blown off by a twelve gage shot gun...the grisly discovery was made by a passing motorist...on his way home...to share Christmas...with his children.----The pathologist report said that you died from shock and hemmorhage due to a shotgun....However the killer told me...you were already dead, when he shot you....Insignificant perhaps,because in the final analysis by whatever means, you were dead Jill.....There was a lot of symbolism in your murder Jill, I was told by the killer -that there were many reasons for the shotgun blast to your face...one was to leave a very significant clue....the police never did pick up on it...but non the less...it gave your killer a sense of pride as the barrel of that shotgun carried his family name...also the Kaleidoscopic eyes mention in your favorite song -Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds...The Killer was afraid....you might bear witness against him after your death...John said Jill may have known the killer or that perhaps you saw something ...that the other children didn't see...so he destroyed that part of you that offended him...
And...maybe in taking the books from your backpack he symbolically revealed himself to be a book collector , which he was still yet when I met him,14 years after your death....In destroying your face...he may have wanted to prove that your premonition ...that you told him about...of being shot by a man without a face...had come true...and then my knowing him as I do...he may have wanted to steal your identity-like he believed his own had been stolen when he was your age...or it could have been because your father was an English Instructor...and he felt he needed to reduced you to even greater anonymity that is why he took the books...stripping you of that connection to your father...underpinning all of this -is the possibility that you and your father represented the school education system in which he experienced so much pain & turmoil...when he was your age...
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 17, 2011 2:17:44 GMT -5
Since I talked to you last-So much has gone on-The bike guy got a hold of Cory and told him about Jills bike location-He said Cory was very Interested-but then Cory always acts that way...he was suppose to get back with the guy-but he hasn't so far-Also Mr. King has re married-so Cathy is having a hard time pinning him down-on what he is going to do about the obstruction of Justice charges against the Oakland County Task force past and present-Mr Robinsion wants to do something-I'm not sure what-but I think he has been talking to officials about it-lets face it he really got screwed by the Cops on Jills case-that could have been solved-with little effort-I find the friend that John may have had in Lavonia-could have been Jerry Wozny-The Mailman who found Kris-{More on him later....I wrote or made statements by email to Cory & Gray three times with out and answer-So i'm not sure they are doing anything-I told them they needed to talk to Johns parents NOW-because they are 85 years old-I just can not for the life of me-come up with a reason they are not talking to any of these people-I am having a very difficult time getting anyone -who I belive has helpful info-to even return my calls-No one wants to get involve{after all it is not there kid}
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Post by Helen Dagner on Mar 17, 2011 20:55:17 GMT -5
reading old Detroit news papers from 1976 and 1977. Its very strange to read a story one day and see it changes the next. Nothing was reported about Jill Robinson as a posible victim untill the day before she turned up dead. Then the news reported that she was killed while she tried to escape. Then they reported that she laid in the snow and was shot.
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